Question about state baseball brackets

[VolunteerGeneral]

Am I looking at this right? Is each side of the bracket a double elimination tournament and then the winners of each side play one game to decide the champion?

[goosevol]

yes

[TG24]

I think so

[3-6-3]

I think so

 

patterned after the NCAA D1 World Series and I might add that the SEC also uses this format

[tigerman]

patterned after the NCAA D1 World Series and I might add that the SEC also uses this format

 

I don't like it. Not really a fair way to determine the best teams. A fluke draw

could leave two, three or even the tourney's best four teams in the same

bracket.

That's just one of the quirks in this setup.

[3-6-3]

I don't like it. Not really a fair way to determine the best teams. A fluke draw

could leave two, three or even the tourney's best four teams in the same

bracket.

That's just one of the quirks in this setup.

 

SUGGESTIONS?? NO ONE KNOWS REALLY WHO THE BEST TEAMS ARE - I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING HS BASEBALL FOR 20 YRS AND FROM YR TO YR YOU REALLY NEVER KNOW -- THAT'S JUST PART OF IT...

[davidlimbaugh]

I don't like it. Not really a fair way to determine the best teams. A fluke draw

could leave two, three or even the tourney's best four teams in the same

bracket.

That's just one of the quirks in this setup.

 

Like the year Riverdale baseball drew the same bracket with Hendersonville, Farragut and Germantown-Houston....

 

But who is to decide who the best teams are? Riverdale and Ooltewah were both 35-7 entering Spring Fling, both with wins against good competition (Riverdale's wins over Lexington (KY) Catholic, Collierville and Germantown Houston comes to mind)

 

One of Riverdale's wins was a 10-0 decision over Science Hill. But who knocked Riverdale out last night? Science Hill....

 

That is what makes baseball the great sport it is. You win a third - You lose a third - and the third in the middle decides what kind of year you have....

[tigerman]

SUGGESTIONS?? NO ONE KNOWS REALLY WHO THE BEST TEAMS ARE - I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING HS BASEBALL FOR 20 YRS AND FROM YR TO YR YOU REALLY NEVER KNOW -- THAT'S JUST PART OF IT...

 

I'm not suggesting that we know who the best teams are before the tournament

starts & do some sort of seeding system because as anybody who follows

baseball knows, NOBODY really knows that. That's why we have a

tournament.

But I might be inclined to have a double elimination tourney patterned

after the softball format. That way all eight teams are in the mix. Things

might play out the same regardless, but I think this would be a fairer way.

I know the depth of a pitching staff really comes into play, but it does that

anyway. The solution to that...stay out of the loser's bracket !!

[STATEment04]

Like the year Riverdale baseball drew the same bracket with Hendersonville, Farragut and Germantown-Houston....

 

But who is to decide who the best teams are? Riverdale and Ooltewah were both 35-7 entering Spring Fling, both with wins against good competition (Riverdale's wins over Lexington (KY) Catholic, Collierville and Germantown Houston comes to mind)

 

One of Riverdale's wins was a 10-0 decision over Science Hill. But who knocked Riverdale out last night? Science Hill....

 

That is what makes baseball the great sport it is. You win a third - You lose a third - and the third in the middle decides what kind of year you have....

 

 

haha yea... that bracket was freakin brutal.... got 4 teams that were the best 4 around for a while all in the same bracket

Edited May 26, 2006 by STATEment04

[bizazz]

I believe the NCAA has gone back to the true double-elimination haven't they? They went to a single game for a few years while CBS was televising the event.

[chuckm]

I'm not suggesting that we know who the best teams are before the tournament

starts & do some sort of seeding system because as anybody who follows

baseball knows, NOBODY really knows that. That's why we have a

tournament.

But I might be inclined to have a double elimination tourney patterned

after the softball format. That way all eight teams are in the mix. Things

might play out the same regardless, but I think this would be a fairer way.

I know the depth of a pitching staff really comes into play, but it does that

anyway. The solution to that...stay out of the loser's bracket !!

 

Softball can play many more games in a day than baseball. An eight-team double elimination tournament would require 14 or 15 games. You wouldn't be able to play that many baseball games in four days and have any pitchers available at the end of the week. Remember, baseball has pitching limitations, softball does not.

[chuckm]

I believe the NCAA has gone back to the true double-elimination haven't they? They went to a single game for a few years while CBS was televising the event.

 

NCAA has two four-team double elimination tournaments. The change for TV was that the bracket winners would play best 2-of-3 for the championship.