Multiplier article

[Baldcoach]

My2cents,

 

Then why when I went for a friend to recive information for his 4 boys that he is transfering into town from Charlotte, NC and wanted to put his kids in a Church of Christ/ Christian school. ALl 4 are excellent athletes. Sent him the forms and the Person I spoke to offered me Finacial aid forms for my friend with the packet. I know to many people that send kids to private schools and I speak to the often. When in a group it came up about the Public/ private debate and he said his kids that are on the football team recieve aid and He knew of 4 other kids that get the same. That came up at a party about 4 weeks ago.

 

So I know for a fact that this guy would not Lie about something like that. He did not understand why.

 

M,

 

I don't know your friend so I can't comment on his situation...heck, I'm not even at Lipscomb. I do know the TSSAA rules about financial aid in DI schools...athletes can't get it, not even a smidgen. In fact, if a kid's account goes too far overdue the TSSAA considers that to be financial aid and the kid becomes ineligible. If that kid then plays in a Varsity event the school is penalized because the kid is technically on financial aid until the account is brought up to date. I am thinking that an error of this type cost USJ a lot of grief a few years ago in Baseball, but I could be wrong.

 

So if your friend's kids are really getting financial aid and DLHS is playing them on the Varsity team they are in serious violation and in danger of getting CLOBBERED by the TSSAA...since I know many people at Lipscomb and they are neither stupid nor dishonest, I am pretty sure that...no, scratch that...I am positive that your facts are not correct.

[my2cents]

I'm not sure I follow the question 2?

Div 1 private school::: For example say you have a daughter in the 10 grade that is a cheerleader and plays no sports. And a son going into 9th grade that is a pretty good at all sports football/basketball/baseball. Can your family get financial aid? If so would it all be applied to the girl and full tuition charged to the boy?

Edited October 5, 2006 by my2cents

[Baldcoach]

Div 1 private school::: For example say you have a daughter in the 10 grade that is a cheerleader and plays no sports. And a son going into 9th grade that is a pretty good at all sports football/basketball/baseball. Can your family get financial aid? If so would it all be applied to the girl and full tuition charged to the boy?

 

I'm not completely sure. I see what you are driving at I think. Could a school, for instance, grant financial aid to the girl at say $6k a year which would be twice what a student of her family's income would normally get, thereby essentially granting the athlete some financial aid.

 

I believe that that is impossible, but I'm not absolutely sure. I do know that very close tabs are kept on financial aid given, but I also know that if you are trying hard you can find a way around any rule. Of course, that cuts to both sides of the issue.

 

Personally I'm for everyone playing and a merit system. Or for just throwing out most of the rules about recruiting and such and going to an open market system...if my program is better than yours and I am willing to bust my butt going to little league games all day Saturday then I get the players I want. If you work harder than me then you get them. If someone else works harder than either of us or has a better feeder system then they get them...I think an open market style approach always works better in the end than Socialism, which is what the TSSAA has gone to. Socialism usually pulls the best programs down in the interest of 'fairness' and raising the worst up...but the worst never get raised...sounds eerily familiar to me.

Edited October 8, 2006 by Baldcoach

[my2cents]

I'm not completely sure. I see what you are driving at I think. Could a school, for instance, grant financial aid to the girl at say $6k a year which would be twice what a student of her family's income would normally get, thereby essentially granting the athlete some financial aid.

 

I believe that that is impossible, but I'm not absolutely sure. I do know that very close tabs are kept on financial aid given, but I also know that if you are trying hard you can find a way around any rule. Of course, that cuts to both sides of the issue.

 

Personally I'm for everyone playing and a merit system. Or for just throwing out most of the rules about recruiting and such and going to an open market system...if my program is better than yours and I am willing to bust my butt going to little league games all day Saturday then I get the players I want. If you work harder than me then you get them. If someone else works harder than either of us or has a better feeder system then they get them...I think an open market style approach always works better in the end than Communism, which is what the TSSAA has gone to. Communism usually pulls the best programs down in the interest of 'fairness' and raising the worst up...but the worst never get raised...sounds eerily familiar to me.

Thanks I guess now that I look at it if a family qualified for say 6k a year based on income with 2 kids in the school, the only way to be "right" would be to only say we can only give you 3k because one of them is playing sports. Often wondered about that, now I can see it pretty clearly.

[lazarus]

"I think an open market style approach always works better in the end than Communism, which is what the TSSAA has gone to."

 

it seems that "communism" in america is little more than a buzzword that we use for anything we dont like. that casual use is an insult and an injustice to those who have lived, or still live under communist rule. back in "the day" i had a number of friends who were athletes in the old soviet bloc. i cannot find the words to express the difference between the tssaa and communism, both in theory and in practical application.

if you know someone who lived under one of those old regimes, i am sure they could explain it to you. if not, e-mail me.

 

please use socialism instead.

[Baldcoach]

"I think an open market style approach always works better in the end than Communism, which is what the TSSAA has gone to."

 

it seems that "communism" in america is little more than a buzzword that we use for anything we dont like. that casual use is an insult and an injustice to those who have lived, or still live under communist rule. back in "the day" i had a number of friends who were athletes in the old soviet bloc. i cannot find the words to express the difference between the tssaa and communism, both in theory and in practical application.

if you know someone who lived under one of those old regimes, i am sure they could explain it to you. if not, e-mail me.

 

please use socialism instead.

 

Ok Laz,

 

And I wasn't referring to the TSSAA as a whole, just the current general attitude that somehow excellence = bad or cheating and that everyone who is excellent should be penalized somehow. The idea that those who excell should be pulled down to raise up the ones who don't so we all live in a happy equality is what I am driving at, not the TSSAA's attempts to litigate it.

 

I hereby change the word Communism to Socialism, mostly because I don't want to upset the Laz man.