rollredroll Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Can someone clarify something for me? My understanding is that the TSSAA applies multipliers to Division I private schools (and single-sex schools, but the crux of this question is around the DI schools). I am fairly certain this is the case. However, I am reading some conflicting information on the 3A/4A boards. Some posters are adamantly claiming that David Lipscomb and Goodpasture are not private schools, yet my understanding is that David Lipscomb are Goodpasture are receiving multipliers. I am utterly confounded by this and hope someone could shed some light on the topic. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHargis Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 This requires a technical answer. Call the TSSAA and get it if indeed its true, which likely its not. Hoping????? Talk to your principal. Boy are they laughing running you all over this site spreading rumors. Now the rest of us are. Must be a slow rumor day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollredroll Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 This requires a technical answer. Call the TSSAA and get it if indeed its true, which likely its not. Hoping????? Talk to your principal. Boy are they laughing running you all over this site spreading rumors. Now the rest of us are. Must be a slow rumor day. I wouldn't expect anything less. Deflecting attention away from oneself is common in such situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euler Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 David Lipscomb and Goodpasture are both Christian schools (you can verify this easily by visiting their websites). The posters claiming that they aren't private schools are probably saying so with the mindset that they are parochial schools (which I consider a subset of private schools, making this correction rather picky). In any event, they are definitely NOT public schools. Hope this helps. I don't post often, but I enjoy reading yours. They are generally well though out, which is a rarity on internet message boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiftyfifty Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) David Lipscomb and Goodpasture are both Christian schools (you can verify this easily by visiting their websites). The posters claiming that they aren't private schools are probably saying so with the mindset that they are parochial schools (which I consider a subset of private schools, making this correction rather picky). In any event, they are definitely NOT public schools. Hope this helps. I don't post often, but I enjoy reading yours. They are generally well though out, which is a rarity on internet message boards. I don't understand your statement about parochial schools being a subset of private schools. Care to explain your statement. Nobody who knows anything about David Lipscomb or Goodpasture would call them parochial schools under any circumstances. Parochial schools are Catholic, one and all. http://www.parochial.com/tennessee/list.html Edited September 14, 2010 by stbulldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euler Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 (edited) I don't understand your statement about parochial schools being a subset of private schools. Care to explain your statement. Nobody who knows anything about David Lipscomb or Goodpasture would call them parochial schools under any circumstances. Parochial schools are Catholic, one and all. http://www.parochial.com/tennessee/list.html Not according to the dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/parochial+school?jss=0 (See also http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parochial+school and http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=parochial%20school Yes, one of the definitions does say "especially Catholic day schools", but the general definition is a Christian school, as the other dictionaries back up. Just because no one you know would call them parochial schools doesn't change the fact that that is what they are, by definition. I really wish you would have double checked before posting. Even if you "know" you're right, it's always worth double-checking. It's something I'm always careful to do before I post, because I don't like being wrong. Normally I don't bother to cite things that only take 15 seconds to look up, but apparently it's necessary here. As far as parochial schools being a subset of private schools, I'm not sure what the confusion is. It's a pretty simple statement; parochial schools are a type of private school. This is also by definition. I'm continually astonished by posters' ability to turn anything into a controversy. This isn't a matter of opinion; this is matter of dictionary definitions. You may not like the definitions, but they are what they are. Edited September 14, 2010 by euler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movinonup Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Ladies and Gentlemen, you have now entered the twilight zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiftyfifty Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 (edited) Not according to the dictionary: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/parochial+school?jss=0 (See also http://www.thefreedictionary.com/parochial+school and http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=parochial%20school Yes, one of the definitions does say "especially Catholic day schools", but the general definition is a Christian school, as the other dictionaries back up. Just because no one you know would call them parochial schools doesn't change the fact that that is what they are, by definition. I really wish you would have double checked before posting. Even if you "know" you're right, it's always worth double-checking. It's something I'm always careful to do before I post, because I don't like being wrong. Normally I don't bother to cite things that only take 15 seconds to look up, but apparently it's necessary here. As far as parochial schools being a subset of private schools, I'm not sure what the confusion is. It's a pretty simple statement; parochial schools are a type of private school. This is also by definition. I'm continually astonished by posters' ability to turn anything into a controversy. This isn't a matter of opinion; this is matter of dictionary definitions. You may not like the definitions, but they are what they are. I disagree, sorry. Parochial schools are Catholic and Catholic only and you know that. I have never heard anyone that has called Christian schools parochial unless they are Catholic. I would say that any private school other than Catholic privates woould be defined as sub-set, since the Catholic school system is the oldest in the nation. How could they be a sub-set. I still find it mysterious that you would post the statement that parochial are a sub-set. By your own statement, parochial schools are distinctly different from other privates. Thats my opinion and I don't like to be wrong either. Parochial is defined as of or pertaining to parochial schools or the education they provide. If you look up any listing of parochial schools in any state in this country and all the schools will be Catholic. The other privates are commonly known and defined as Christian, private, non-denominational etc. But only Catholic schools are called parochial. Yes, they are what they are. And once again, I have never in many, many, years of following sports and knowing hundreds of people ever heard a single one call Goodpasture or David Lipscomb parochial. I don't think they would prefer that either. I looked at all the dictionary sites you pasted, and it proves my point, parochial schools are by definition schools backed directly by a church. You may not know this, but Catholic schools are the only schools that are tied directly to the Catholic church and thus are the only true parochials. Other privates have a loose connection to a single church, but usually remain pretty independent. Davidson Academy is not affiliated with a particular faith, Goodpasture is affiliated with the Church of Christ, Brentwood Academy is a private "Christian" school, but no direct affiliation with any particular faith. Thats what seperates Catholic schools from all others unless you want to talk colleges and then there are non catholic colleges directed tied to a particular faith on occasion. I believe you are wrong. By the way, you are easily astonished. By the way, there is no controversy, I just happen to disagree with your post and continue to. If that is a controversy, well thats too bad. What controversy are you referring to specifically? Lastly, I did not have to double check since involvement with schools has been a big part of my life. What I find amazing is that you double-checked and still are wrong in my opinion. Edited September 15, 2010 by stbulldog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnman Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 A parochial school is a school directly associated with a church. Most are Catholic. The word parochial is not used much in the south but it is on other parts of the country. Tennessee Temple would be an example of a parochial school (associated directly with Highland Park Baptist Church) or Brainerd Baptist (associated directly with Brainerd Baptist church) I don't hear people describe them as parochial but they are. Most Christian schools are board run schools that may have an association with a denomination but not with a specific local church. It's really a non issue when talking athletics or TSSAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66in74 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Could it be that the definition of a "private school" means it recieves no "public" tax dollars to operate, and playing Division I also gives no scholarhip monies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiftyfifty Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Could it be that the definition of a "private school" means it recieves no "public" tax dollars to operate, and playing Division I also gives no scholarhip monies. It could be, but it isn't. There is only need-based financial aid based on the parents income and bills. Anything else is against the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66in74 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 It could be, but it isn't. There is only need-based financial aid based on the parents income and bills. Anything else is against the rules. What is your definition of "private school"? I still say a "private school" is a school that receives no public tax dollars to operate. Division I private schools choose not to give financial assistance. Division II private schools choose to give financial assistance. That's the reason Zion Christian Academy went DII this year. At least that's what they told the Board of Directors. It would allow them to offer "need based" financial aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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