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I think the the local paper should quit hiring people that were in the band and never played sports as sports writers. Where would the band play if they didn't have a football game on Friday nights. T

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Everyone's gonna have a different opinion on here, I for one didn't play in the Old days ,I had coach newby as a freshman coach and I Really enjoyed him and Upton.I respect what Coach Paz and Newby Do

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They played better tonight but special teams killed them. We don't have a kicker and returners can't hold on to the ball.

 

Receivers need to buy the QB dinner or something. How many balls can you drop in a game????

 

Defense is young and lacks size in key areas.

 

Seniors..... we have NO senior leadership and only 1 or 2 are on the field playing.

 

With no leadership and young players it's a rebuilding year for the Pioneers. We have been rebuilding for a long time.

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They played better tonight but special teams killed them. We don't have a kicker and returners can't hold on to the ball.

 

Receivers need to buy the QB dinner or something. How many balls can you drop in a game????

 

Defense is young and lacks size in key areas.

 

Seniors..... we have NO senior leadership and only 1 or 2 are on the field playing.

 

With no leadership and young players it's a rebuilding year for the Pioneers. We have been rebuilding for a long time.

As I stated last year on this site, the Pioneers have very few offensive weapons since they graduated 95% of their offense. They have very little playmaking ability. Defensively they struggle to get stops. They will continue to struggle for years to come. They can put 100+ on the sideline. If you dont have players who can make bigtime plays then it is hard to score or get stops. Not knocking any young man out there busting his tail. The last senior class had some of those type kids and still only got 3 wins their Sr year.

 

WC has went out searching for wins on this years schedule including Moore Co.(A) and Smith Co.(AA). The basketball teams did this last year. Find the Monterey,Watertown,Moore Co type schools and try to pad the win total. The problem with this is when those school beat you it truly shows everyone where the program is. Searching for wins isnt the answer.

 

WC has been over 2 decades since a winning team has been put on the field at Nunley stadium. We keep building,rebuilding,retooling, and reloading. No one ever really addresses the problem which IMO lies at how our whole school system is setup. The county school system is a joke when it comes to building athletic teams at a higher level. We are a 6A football team that is run like a single A program. It isnt the AD's fault, the principals fault, coaches fault, or players fault. It is the fault of Warren County citizen who for some reason tried to hold onto some 1940 philosphy about their county school and all the great thing that were done in it back in the days of WWI, WWII all the way up to current day not realizing other places have passed us by long ago. Those new county facilities will be nice. The students will continue to test low in them(Warren County is one of eight school districts in the state on the current watch list by the state for those who didnt know). The athletes will continue to be behind. But hey for 15-20 million dollars for facilities what do you expect. Ever thought of maybe having 3 big middle schools and 2 highschools. Ever think our system is flawed. Ever think doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the correct way. Ever think those county schools should be history not the current way. Good luck to the Pioneers in the coming weeks. Maybe the people who support you at Nunley Stadium will one day look forward not back in time.

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As I stated last year on this site, the Pioneers have very few offensive weapons since they graduated 95% of their offense. They have very little playmaking ability. Defensively they struggle to get stops. They will continue to struggle for years to come. They can put 100+ on the sideline. If you dont have players who can make bigtime plays then it is hard to score or get stops. Not knocking any young man out there busting his tail. The last senior class had some of those type kids and still only got 3 wins their Sr year.

 

WC has went out searching for wins on this years schedule including Moore Co.(A) and Smith Co.(AA). The basketball teams did this last year. Find the Monterey,Watertown,Moore Co type schools and try to pad the win total. The problem with this is when those school beat you it truly shows everyone where the program is. Searching for wins isnt the answer.

 

WC has been over 2 decades since a winning team has been put on the field at Nunley stadium. We keep building,rebuilding,retooling, and reloading. No one ever really addresses the problem which IMO lies at how our whole school system is setup. The county school system is a joke when it comes to building athletic teams at a higher level. We are a 6A football team that is run like a single A program. It isnt the AD's fault, the principals fault, coaches fault, or players fault. It is the fault of Warren County citizen who for some reason tried to hold onto some 1940 philosphy about their county school and all the great thing that were done in it back in the days of WWI, WWII all the way up to current day not realizing other places have passed us by long ago. Those new county facilities will be nice. The students will continue to test low in them(Warren County is one of eight school districts in the state on the current watch list by the state for those who didnt know). The athletes will continue to be behind. But hey for 15-20 million dollars for facilities what do you expect. Ever thought of maybe having 3 big middle schools and 2 highschools. Ever think our system is flawed. Ever think doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the correct way. Ever think those county schools should be history not the current way. Good luck to the Pioneers in the coming weeks. Maybe the people who support you at Nunley Stadium will one day look forward not back in time.

Well said but big time players don't really get a chance here. 1 goes in for 1 play he's pulled out and another put in. It seems as though those that prove they can do something have to keep proving it while they continue to "look" for something better. IMO we do entirely too much of that in a game. The boys never get a feeling for where they are---as soon as they get in the groove of what the other team is up to they are pulled out not so we can try something new. No so we can try the same thing with a different person. Trying to beat the man ended up getting a major portion of our boys hurt so that we were on the bottom before we ever got started this year. Our players need support from the community--it isn't their fault that the system is flawed but every year they pay the price.

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As I stated last year on this site, the Pioneers have very few offensive weapons since they graduated 95% of their offense. They have very little playmaking ability. Defensively they struggle to get stops. They will continue to struggle for years to come. They can put 100+ on the sideline. If you dont have players who can make bigtime plays then it is hard to score or get stops. Not knocking any young man out there busting his tail. The last senior class had some of those type kids and still only got 3 wins their Sr year.

 

WC has went out searching for wins on this years schedule including Moore Co.(A) and Smith Co.(AA). The basketball teams did this last year. Find the Monterey,Watertown,Moore Co type schools and try to pad the win total. The problem with this is when those school beat you it truly shows everyone where the program is. Searching for wins isnt the answer.

 

WC has been over 2 decades since a winning team has been put on the field at Nunley stadium. We keep building,rebuilding,retooling, and reloading. No one ever really addresses the problem which IMO lies at how our whole school system is setup. The county school system is a joke when it comes to building athletic teams at a higher level. We are a 6A football team that is run like a single A program. It isnt the AD's fault, the principals fault, coaches fault, or players fault. It is the fault of Warren County citizen who for some reason tried to hold onto some 1940 philosphy about their county school and all the great thing that were done in it back in the days of WWI, WWII all the way up to current day not realizing other places have passed us by long ago. Those new county facilities will be nice. The students will continue to test low in them(Warren County is one of eight school districts in the state on the current watch list by the state for those who didnt know). The athletes will continue to be behind. But hey for 15-20 million dollars for facilities what do you expect. Ever thought of maybe having 3 big middle schools and 2 highschools. Ever think our system is flawed. Ever think doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the correct way. Ever think those county schools should be history not the current way. Good luck to the Pioneers in the coming weeks. Maybe the people who support you at Nunley Stadium will one day look forward not back in time.

thought the 2005 team had a winning record.

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The '05 team went 5-5 regular season and lost in the playoffs to go 5-6 overall.

WC has never had an undefeated season, contrary to what the "72 team wants you to believe. They went 10-0 in regular season but lost in the first round of the playoffs. I believe the best record belongs to the 1980 team that went 11-2 and lost to Oak Ridge in playoffs.

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WC has never had an undefeated season, contrary to what the "72 team wants you to believe. They went 10-0 in regular season but lost in the first round of the playoffs. I believe the best record belongs to the 1980 team that went 11-2 and lost to Oak Ridge in playoffs.

Contrary to what YOU want to believe, that was the class of 74 or 1973 season, and that team is the standard by which all oher teams will be measured. The Pioneers went 9-1 during the regular season of 75, and I believe they were also 9-1 during one year in the Jeff Womack era.

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