Marion County @ Chattanooga Christian

[Guest Purplepastry]

Old Pirate jest feels the youngons from Jasvegas will find a way to win. Then perhaps not, jest hope all the youngons come thru injury free. OP sure has missed the regular Jasper folkes this year, especially that Squaw and Big J, The Truth. Hope you fellers is still above ground

Some of those you mention are parents of players that have graduated. Not many foolish enough to follow on here when the don't have a personal stake. I am one such fool.

Edited October 19, 2011 by Purplepastry

[Ball360]

Some of those you mention are parents of players that have graduated. Not many foolish enough to follow on here when the don't have a personal stake. I am one such fool.

purplepastry give us your opinion on boeck since you dont have a kid on the team. does he need another year to or do we let him go now? i think gudger would make one holluva head coach

[Guest Purplepastry]

purplepastry give us your opinion on boeck since you dont have a kid on the team. does he need another year to or do we let him go now? i think gudger would make one holluva head coach

I think that Boeck is not the whole problem right now. We are experiencing the perfect storm. The current upper classmen have little talent, had poor coaching since Little League, and many have poor attitudes. Combine that with the fact that Boeck is not really equipped to deal with the hate, he feels the heat, and you get the disaster we have now.

Boeck is a good football man but it takes a special personality and thick skin (neither of which I believe he has) to deal with the present situation. I don’t know if he can get himself out of this mess. He started off with the right attitude and in a decent situations but after a little success he got careful and began to love being the toast of the town. He tried to recreate the old days instead of forging ahead to a new tradition. He ran into a couple of lean years talent wise and resented being criticized. You have to realize as a coach that you are going to be criticized and you have to put you’re your ego away, both when you’re being cheered and booed. Becoming civilized, having an ego, and wanting to be loved are poison for a coach.

The real problem now is that I don’t know if a new coach would solve anything. The people in power right now will not tolerate and probably wouldn’t hire the right person to do the job. It is not just football that is screwed up. One only has to read the paper to see that. Until sane people demand different nothing will change. The regular people would love to have a coach that took care of business but they probably won’t get it.

General Patton was one of our greatest generals but he had an ego flaw. The politically minded could not stomach him and he was a threat to their way or life. Eventually he was done in by his ego. Most great coaches are hated and feared (not openly) by the politically powerful. A coach has to accept the fact that those people are gunning for them, avoid the ego traps, and keep advancing. If you spend too much time being careful and worrying about what is behind the advance halts. Shore up your flanks (deal with today) and keep advancing (plan for tomorrow).

A good program is not the result of what happens when a coach has talent any decent coach can win with talent. It is in the lean years producing players that the great coaches are made. Not all have the will do the things necessary to create program. It is a thankless job that makes you as many enemies as friends and some can’t handle being hated. Once a coach gets worried about people hating him more than doing the dirty work he is in trouble. Sad fact is great coaches are usually only recognized when they are gone.

[rlh]

purplepastry give us your opinion on boeck since you dont have a kid on the team. does he need another year to or do we let him go now? i think gudger would make one holluva head coach

 

I think Jasper folk should give him about 5 years to work this mess out.

[PiRaTe._.MiKe]

I think that Boeck is not the whole problem right now. We are experiencing the perfect storm. The current upper classmen have little talent, had poor coaching since Little League, and many have poor attitudes. Combine that with the fact that Boeck is not really equipped to deal with the hate, he feels the heat, and you get the disaster we have now.

Boeck is a good football man but it takes a special personality and thick skin (neither of which I believe he has) to deal with the present situation. I don’t know if he can get himself out of this mess. He started off with the right attitude and in a decent situations but after a little success he got careful and began to love being the toast of the town. He tried to recreate the old days instead of forging ahead to a new tradition. He ran into a couple of lean years talent wise and resented being criticized. You have to realize as a coach that you are going to be criticized and you have to put you’re your ego away, both when you’re being cheered and booed. Becoming civilized, having an ego, and wanting to be loved are poison for a coach.

The real problem now is that I don’t know if a new coach would solve anything. The people in power right now will not tolerate and probably wouldn’t hire the right person to do the job. It is not just football that is screwed up. One only has to read the paper to see that. Until sane people demand different nothing will change. The regular people would love to have a coach that took care of business but they probably won’t get it.

General Patton was one of our greatest generals but he had an ego flaw. The politically minded could not stomach him and he was a threat to their way or life. Eventually he was done in by his ego. Most great coaches are hated and feared (not openly) by the politically powerful. A coach has to accept the fact that those people are gunning for them, avoid the ego traps, and keep advancing. If you spend too much time being careful and worrying about what is behind the advance halts. Shore up your flanks (deal with today) and keep advancing (plan for tomorrow).

A good program is not the result of what happens when a coach has talent any decent coach can win with talent. It is in the lean years producing players that the great coaches are made. Not all have the will do the things necessary to create program. It is a thankless job that makes you as many enemies as friends and some can’t handle being hated. Once a coach gets worried about people hating him more than doing the dirty work he is in trouble. Sad fact is great coaches are usually only recognized when they are gone.

Good post.

[busgus]

I think Jasper folk should give him about 5 years to work this mess out.

sounds good to me. as long as he is there, you'll see the more talented kids packing

[busgus]

I think that Boeck is not the whole problem right now. We are experiencing the perfect storm. The current upper classmen have little talent, had poor coaching since Little League, and many have poor attitudes. Combine that with the fact that Boeck is not really equipped to deal with the hate, he feels the heat, and you get the disaster we have now.

Boeck is a good football man but it takes a special personality and thick skin (neither of which I believe he has) to deal with the present situation. I don’t know if he can get himself out of this mess. He started off with the right attitude and in a decent situations but after a little success he got careful and began to love being the toast of the town. He tried to recreate the old days instead of forging ahead to a new tradition. He ran into a couple of lean years talent wise and resented being criticized. You have to realize as a coach that you are going to be criticized and you have to put you’re your ego away, both when you’re being cheered and booed. Becoming civilized, having an ego, and wanting to be loved are poison for a coach.

The real problem now is that I don’t know if a new coach would solve anything. The people in power right now will not tolerate and probably wouldn’t hire the right person to do the job. It is not just football that is screwed up. One only has to read the paper to see that. Until sane people demand different nothing will change. The regular people would love to have a coach that took care of business but they probably won’t get it.

General Patton was one of our greatest generals but he had an ego flaw. The politically minded could not stomach him and he was a threat to their way or life. Eventually he was done in by his ego. Most great coaches are hated and feared (not openly) by the politically powerful. A coach has to accept the fact that those people are gunning for them, avoid the ego traps, and keep advancing. If you spend too much time being careful and worrying about what is behind the advance halts. Shore up your flanks (deal with today) and keep advancing (plan for tomorrow).

A good program is not the result of what happens when a coach has talent any decent coach can win with talent. It is in the lean years producing players that the great coaches are made. Not all have the will do the things necessary to create program. It is a thankless job that makes you as many enemies as friends and some can’t handle being hated. Once a coach gets worried about people hating him more than doing the dirty work he is in trouble. Sad fact is great coaches are usually only recognized when they are gone.

did he not coach these kids when they where underclassman?

[PiRaTe._.MiKe]

did he not coach these kids when they where underclassman?

Joe Muir coached these kids when they were underclassman lol

[TheAmbassador]

Pirate Mike, get off the wallet and join us pirate fans with a plus membership.

[PiRaTe._.MiKe]

Pirate Mike, get off the wallet and join us pirate fans with a plus membership.

Every year I tell myself I'm gonna do and I never do. Is it calendar year or 1 year from the time you sign up for plus?

[TheAmbassador]

Every year I tell myself I'm gonna do and I never do. Is it calendar year or 1 year from the time you sign up for plus?

It's from the time you sign up Mike. Get one tonight. It's pretty easy. As for the situation in Jasper? It will take a special type of guy to turn around that program.

[PiRaTe._.MiKe]

It's from the time you sign up Mike. Get one tonight. It's pretty easy. As for the situation in Jasper? It will take a special type of guy to turn around that program.

I'm still in Florida on vacation right now. Apparently you can only do it with pay pal or sending check/money order. My pay pal has nothing in it. I will do it when I get back home. Too much to try and do from my iphone