TheSnowMan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 What happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodenFan Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 What happened? Guess it depends on who you talk to as to what happened but someone got a T in OT from Warren Co. and Van Buren hit both free throws. On the inbounds play a Warren Co. player got a T and the coach got off the bench and took his players to the locker room with two minutes in the game. The refs left the floor and the game was over. Other stuff took place but I guess that's for others to look into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VB-booster Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Wild ending to a good game. VB came back from a 4th quarter defecit and forced OT. Warren Co. coach got T'd up after refs called a foul on a VB player. VB went up by 6 in OT with 2 minutes left. VB player got pushed down on a halfcourt inbound play right in front of the refs. Ref T's that player and Warren coach storms the court. He gets T'd again and starts pointing toward the locker room and telling his players to leave the court. No one really sure what is going on. While going to the locker room, alot of jawing going on. The Warren County coach then makes contact with a couple of VB players and a mini ruckus begins. Cops and faculty rush the court trying to keep everyone seperated. Warren County goes into the locker room, their coach comes back out but is restrained by several people, including his players. Not sure who he was trying to get, but he was irrate. Never seen a coach act like that. Did hear that the Athletic Director for Warren County had left before all this happened. But a school board member was there and on the court as soon as the incident happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesline Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 It was a great game I would of loved to have seen the ending but no thanks to warren countys coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13sports Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 Is there anyone else who was there that can give us a play by play of what happened? Would love to hear opinions from both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUCK Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Controversial ending spoils spectacular game By Jeff Simmons Southern Standard A black cloud will forever hang over the finale of the Warren County High School boys basketball team’s game against the Van Buren County Eagles on Friday night. The Pioneers and Eagles were locked in a tightly-contested game that went into overtime before two technical fouls sent Pioneer coach Malcolm Montgomery and his team storming to the locker room with 2:08 to play. With Warren County in the locker room, the referees had no other choice than to call the game and declare Van Buren County the victors as the home team led 61-56 when the game was suddenly halted. For more details on coach Montgomery’s walkout, see page 1-A. Before the sudden ending, the Pioneers and Eagles battled toe-to-toe in a game that couldn’t finish in the first 32 minutes. Neither team led by more than five points in the first half before Warren County built an 11-point advantage in the third quarter. Sophomore Lee Carden and seniors Hunter Daniel and Hunter Adams were responsible for giving the Pioneers some breathing room in the third quarter. Carden began the second half by banking in a 3-pointer to give Warren County a 30-29 advantage. Adams then scored by getting behind the Eagle defense for an easy layup following a missed 3-pointer. Another defensive stand led to Daniel drilling a 3-pointer as Warren County led 35-29. Following another failed Eagle possession, Adams scored on a layup set up by a great bounce pass from Jacob Reagan to make the advantage eight and force the Van Buren County coach to call a time-out. The Eagles countered with a score, but Adams followed it up with a free throw and a layup off a pass from Daniel to make it 40-31. Daniel then drilled a 3-pointer to respond to a free throw by the Eagles to give Warren County its first double-digit lead. Mitchell McCorkle and Tucker Smith added layups near the end of the third, but a late foul cost the Pioneers three points going into the fourth. For the second time in the game, a Warren County player fouled an Eagle while shooting a 3-pointer. Justin Ware’s foul came with 1.5 seconds left in the third and the Van Buren County player connected on all three freebies to make it 47-39 entering the fourth. Van Buren County put its sweat and blood into a fourth-quarter comeback to tie the game and send it to overtime. The blood spill came on a fourth-quarter incident when Pioneer post Nick Simmons accidentally caught a Van Buren County player with an elbow while fighting for a rebound. Action continued with the Eagles ending up with a layup to slice the lead to 52-37, but an extensive clean-up effort followed as blood was tracked all over the court. After a nearly 15-minute delay, action resumed and Warren County tried to kill the clock to hold on to a slim lead down the stretch. The Pioneers took two minutes off the clock running a weave to keep Van Buren County off balance. Warren County’s stall tactic backfired when the team’s offense went missing over the final five minutes and Van Buren County stormed into the lead. It took two free throws from Carden with 51.3 seconds left to send the game to overtime, but Carden also missed a chance to end the game in regulation. Carden, a sophomore who started his first varsity game Friday, took the final shot in regulation after a play devised for Reagan was stopped by the Van Buren County offense. Reagan tried to weave through the heart of the defense, but with four defenders converging Reagan looked to the corner for Carden. Carden got off a 3-pointer just before the buzzer, but the ball kicked off the back of the iron and the game went into overtime. In extra time, Van Buren County got off to a quick start. The Eagles got a 3-pointer to start the period before Daniel cut the lead back to one with a floater in the lane that touched every part of the rim before falling in. Another basket by Van Buren County, this time on a putback following a missed shot, moved the lead back to three before the controversial ending stopped action with 2:08 to play. The loss moves Warren County’s record to 3-3 overall. Adams and Daniel led the Pioneers with 13 points apiece. Simmons and Carden scored six points each. The Pioneers are off this week but return to action Tuesday, Dec. 13 at home against the Middle Tennessee Heat. The game is the second scheduled “Whiteout†game, where students are encouraged to bring toilet paper to toss on the court after the first made basket by the boys team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Controversial ending spoils spectacular game By Jeff Simmons Southern Standard "With Warren County in the locker room, the referees had no other choice than to call the game and declare Van Buren County the victors as the home team led 61-56 when the game was suddenly halted." Referees can halt a game but they cannot declare a victor or a forfeit. They are not allowed to do that by TSSAA rules. They are supposed to report any unusual occurance of the game but only TSSAA can declare a victor and a forfeit. Obviously, they will do so in favor of Van Buren. Usually, sanctions and fines follow circumstances like this as well. However, the forfeit, declaration of a winner, sanctions, and fines will all be decided by TSSAA and none of that is left to the refs. Edited December 4, 2011 by Whitey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyitsme Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Rule 2.5.4 clearly states that the "referee shall/may declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant." Furthermore, rule 2.3 states that "the referee shall make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules" (aka, a team leaving the court with time remaining). A little research goes a long way. Too many people either don't know the high school rules or they're simply making them up. Or a little of both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglesline Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Can't wait till our second match up to see the results this time I think an old rivalry may have struck up again does anyone remember any of the games from years ago, they had similar outcomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VB-booster Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 The Southern Standard says that the 2nd game is "uncertain as both school administrations will review the situation and determine if the game will be played." The game is scheduled for Feb. 13th, right before district tournaments begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13sports Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) I recall some excellent games, but not any with similar endings. There is no reason they shouldn't play. If the problem is between the players and coaches, it could and should easily be handled. That's what officials, rules, School Administrators, and TSSAA Administration is for. If it is from people in the stands, that can be handled also. If there was something going on behind the bench during the game that I haven't heard about yet (and it does happen), the coach should have gone to the officials and asked for security to handle the problem (remove the people, etc.). I wasn't there, so I'm just trying to think about what could have been happening. If the kids can handle playing (and they usually can), they should play. Edited December 4, 2011 by 13sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 (edited) Rule 2.5.4 clearly states that the "referee shall/may declare the game a forfeit when conditions warrant." Furthermore, rule 2.3 states that "the referee shall make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules" (aka, a team leaving the court with time remaining). A little research goes a long way. Too many people either don't know the high school rules or they're simply making them up. Or a little of both... My comment was made from the perspective of a ref. I ref and in our State meetings the State administrator has strictly told us we are not to declare a forfeit or a winner. We can call a game as in end it due to unusual cicumstances but we are not to declare a forfeit at the game. The circumstances are to be reported to TSSAA and they will decided the forfeit and the outcome. That has been our instructions for years. Edited December 4, 2011 by Whitey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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