Runner interference

[haderade]

At the SC-Northwest game at WC Friday night- ground ball hit to ss with runner on 1st, good flip to 2b, who turns to relay to 1st, runner runs through bag never attempting to slide possibly brushing fielder. SC coach argues interference, yet field umps explanation was "you weren't going to get runner at 1st". Is is not interfernece if the baserunner doesn't attempt to slide? Home ump didn't have the kauhonies to overrule.

[glock22]

You never HAVE TO slide, but if you do it has to be a legal slide, directly into the base or away from the fielder.

 

This is the plate umps call, base ump has to turn with the ball with the throw to first.

[KenHawk]

That is correct in that the runner does not have to slide, but the rule states that the runner must get out of the fielders way once the force out is made. If the batter-runner has reached first safely. there is no interference. Otherwise,interference should have been called and the batter-runner declared out.

Edited March 25, 2012 by KenHawk

[haderade]

You never HAVE TO slide, but if you do it has to be a legal slide, directly into the base or away from the fielder.

 

This is the plate umps call, base ump has to turn with the ball with the throw to first.

No throw to first, at the turn runner was in arm slot and 2b held up.

[GRGrizz]

Totally a judgement call by the field ump as to interference by the runner. Sliding is not required.

 

Force play slide rule:

Rule 8-4-2 reads: Any runner is out when he: ( does not legally slide and causes illegal contact and/or legally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play, or on a force play, does not slide in a direct line between the bases. A runner may slide away from the fielder to avoid contact or alter the play of the fielder. Runners are never required to slide, but if a runner elects to slide, the slide must be legal.

 

Furthermore, it IS the field umps call, he may CHOOSE to ask for help from the homeplate ump but that's his decision. Neither umpire has control to OVERRIDE the others call and if they tried, no one would work with them.

[glock22]

Totally a judgement call by the field ump as to interference by the runner. Sliding is not required.

 

Force play slide rule:

Rule 8-4-2 reads: Any runner is out when he: ( does not legally slide and causes illegal contact and/or legally alters the actions of a fielder in the immediate act of making a play, or on a force play, does not slide in a direct line between the bases. A runner may slide away from the fielder to avoid contact or alter the play of the fielder. Runners are never required to slide, but if a runner elects to slide, the slide must be legal.

 

Furthermore, it IS the field umps call, he may CHOOSE to ask for help from the homeplate ump but that's his decision. Neither umpire has control to OVERRIDE the others call and if they tried, no one would work with them.

Wrong.

 

Read your CCA mechanics.

 

Common sense says that the field umpire can't see most interference at 2B and follow the ball to 1B. Plate umpire gets the interference in MOST of these situations.

 

There is no OVERRIDING, this call is shared. And as far as OVERRIDING, an umpire can ask for more information from his partner and then change HIS/HER call.

[redkuda]

Wrong.

 

Read your CCA mechanics.

 

Common sense says that the field umpire can't see most interference at 2B and follow the ball to 1B. Plate umpire gets the interference in MOST of these situations.

 

There is no OVERRIDING, this call is shared. And as far as OVERRIDING, an umpire can ask for more information from his partner and then change HIS/HER call.

 

 

Agree with what you're saying but in a situation as we had last year in State the runner intentionally slides at the fielder's feet and takes out his legs so there is no throw. In that situation is an obvious call for the field ump and he has no throw to follow. This happened last year in the game before ours and the same crew called it interference and both the runner coming to 2nd and the runner going to first were called out as the force was made and interference prevented the fielder from throwing the ball. In our game the same crew did not make that call even though it was more blatent.

[GRGrizz]

Wrong.

 

Read your CCA mechanics.

 

Common sense says that the field umpire can't see most interference at 2B and follow the ball to 1B. Plate umpire gets the interference in MOST of these situations.

 

There is no OVERRIDING, this call is shared. And as far as OVERRIDING, an umpire can ask for more information from his partner and then change HIS/HER call.

 

What an awesome well thought out reply there glock22. I was replying to the specific situation described by the original poster. In a HS game with a two man crew and a runner on first, the field ump is in B position. If he can't see interference from the runner on the 2nd baseman from there, then he's as blind as most of the umps in our conference. Secondly, there was no 'ball to follow to 1B' as there was no throw. The original poster said the field ump stated you weren't going to get the runner at first anyway, which is his judgement. The OP then stated the homeplate umpire didn't have the 'kauhonies' to overrule the field ump, to which I stated, if he overrode him he would be working by himself. I went on to state that IF the field ump wanted, he may chose to ask for help from the plate ump on the call, but he don't have to.

[catsbackr]

Glock nailed it.

[ut18vols]

Also Rule 2-32-2f states: a slide is illegal if "the runner, on a force play, does not slide on the ground and in direct line between the two bases"

[haebvols]

Also Rule 2-32-2f states: a slide is illegal if "the runner, on a force play, does not slide on the ground and in direct line between the two bases"

Was at this game, runner virtually ran through bag, hard to tell if any contact was made, but at no time was any attempt made to slide or get out of 2b path to relay throw.

[GRGrizz]

Was at this game, runner virtually ran through bag, hard to tell if any contact was made, but at no time was any attempt made to slide or get out of 2b path to relay throw.

 

The runner doesn't have to slide. Basically, the force play slide rule is a safety rule. It states the runner doesn't have to slide, but if he does, he must slide in a direct line between first and second base. This is to provide protection for the fielder to step to either side of the base to throw the ball. If the runner slides to either side of the base both him and the batter runner are out regardless of whether a throw is made or not.