Substate changes

[Vandychris]

Summertown hosts substate games and their gym does not seat 1000 people. You are wrong about minimum seating for substate games. The only mandatory seating is for regions and districts.

[Vandychris]

Here is a good read on that little facility in Summertown

 

http://m.columbiadailyherald.com/sports/preps/gem-gyms-summertown

[jvaughan]

www.tssaa.org/tssaa-basketball-regulations

 

In the file that is posted, at the bottom of page 3 is the requirements for the sectional round (which are the same as the district and region, listed earlier). And then at the top of page 4 it says that if a school doesn't meet the requirement, it can select a larger facility or may request a wavier for the Executive Director.

[Vandychris]

And that points to really not having a minimum seating because of the waiver. Facilities such as the one in Summertown, almost always are granted the waiver in Class A.

Edited February 11, 2016 by Vandychris

[IrishBBall]

And that points to really not having a minimum seating because of the waiver. Facilities such as the one in Summertown, almost always are granted the waiver in Class A.

I would assume more waivers are granted at the A level simply due to normal crowd sizes.

[LoveForTheGame]

Being not from Tennessee for the longest time, what was this "substate tournament" that people are talking about? All I know is the sectional played at the campus of the reigion champion while hosting another reigion runner-up. I thought that was the way it had always been. Was something else done in the '90's or something?

[jvaughan]

Being not from Tennessee for the longest time, what was this "substate tournament" that people are talking about? All I know is the sectional played at the campus of the reigion champion while hosting another reigion runner-up. I thought that was the way it had always been. Was something else done in the '90's or something?

 

In the 98-99 and 99-00 years the T$$AA tested out a "Sectional Tournament". The losers of the Region Semis played a consolation game, with the winner moving on, loser being eliminated.

The Sectional looked like this.

Region 7 Runner Up vs Region 8 3rd Place, winner of that played Region 8 Champ in Semis

Region 8 Runner Up vs Region 7 3rd Place, winner of that played Region 7 Champ in Semis

Winners of Semis played, both moved on to the State Tournament. The Section Championship game was done basically for placement in the state quarterfinals, rather than the random draw that is done now. If you won, you played the runner up of another section, and vice versa. 

I'm not sure where the rest of the state sectionals were but for West Tenn 1A was at UTM, and I think 2A was at Oman Arena (Jackson), and 3A was at a large high school in Shelby County. The name sectional kind of stuck around when they changed back to the current (and old) format that they have now. I will always refer to it as the substate round

 

I was part of 2 teams that played in the sectional. I kind of liked it then, but now think that the cons out weigh the pros. Playing on a college floor was fun, and we were the beneficiary of the 3rd place game one year (which was great because we upset the other regions runner up in the first round in one of the best games I was a part of). But it was 3 straight nights. That made it really tough for the winner of the quarters to win later on. It made the Region Championship game big because it gave a bye into the semis and another days rest, but the Region Championship is already big with the chance getting to host the substate or go on the road. Also you could lose up to 4 times and make the state tournament (twice in district, once in region, and once in sectional) which waters it down and isn't tournament basketball. It was done because it made more games which means 1 thing, more $$$$$$$$.

[jvaughan]

And that points to really not having a minimum seating because of the waiver. Facilities such as the one in Summertown, almost always are granted the waiver in Class A.

 

I agree, why have the minimum if you can just get a waiver.

[PIONEERS12]

Good teams deserve to play at home as long as it lasts.

[LoveForTheGame]

In the 98-99 and 99-00 years the T$$AA tested out a "Sectional Tournament". The losers of the Region Semis played a consolation game, with the winner moving on, loser being eliminated.

The Sectional looked like this.

Region 7 Runner Up vs Region 8 3rd Place, winner of that played Region 8 Champ in Semis

Region 8 Runner Up vs Region 7 3rd Place, winner of that played Region 7 Champ in Semis

Winners of Semis played, both moved on to the State Tournament. The Section Championship game was done basically for placement in the state quarterfinals, rather than the random draw that is done now. If you won, you played the runner up of another section, and vice versa.

I'm not sure where the rest of the state sectionals were but for West Tenn 1A was at UTM, and I think 2A was at Oman Arena (Jackson), and 3A was at a large high school in Shelby County. The name sectional kind of stuck around when they changed back to the current (and old) format that they have now. I will always refer to it as the substate round

 

I was part of 2 teams that played in the sectional. I kind of liked it then, but now think that the cons out weigh the pros. Playing on a college floor was fun, and we were the beneficiary of the 3rd place game one year (which was great because we upset the other regions runner up in the first round in one of the best games I was a part of). But it was 3 straight nights. That made it really tough for the winner of the quarters to win later on. It made the Region Championship game big because it gave a bye into the semis and another days rest, but the Region Championship is already big with the chance getting to host the substate or go on the road. Also you could lose up to 4 times and make the state tournament (twice in district, once in region, and once in sectional) which waters it down and isn't tournament basketball. It was done because it made more games which means 1 thing, more $$$$$$$$.

Intresting. Not sure if I like that or not but it is Intresting. Ravenwood could have benefited from that as they lost four straight regional semifinals, one game away from substate four years in a row.