Kublah Posted October 6, 2016 Report Share Posted October 6, 2016 P.S. It's not Milan's size per se that can/will give USJ trouble. The DII teams out of Memphis are bigger than Milan. What makes Milan great is their technique, execution and violence. Both teams are great at what they do. Both teams have D1 talent at the "money" positions on their respective offenses. Trey Smith is the difference this year. Hope this game becomes a yearly rivalry. These are two of the best programs in West Tennessee. (Milan gets the nod because of the trophy case.) Young men on both sides will make lifetime memories tomorrow night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cofo Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) In most years, I'd say USJ can't stop Milan, and Milan can't stop USJ. Games like that usually favor the running team. This year, USJ has the top lineman in the country in the middle of their defense. Trey Smith is good enough to stop two Milan drives. USJ 48 - Milan 34 Milan has an above average lineman in Rimmer...a Duke commit...USJ and Trey play both ways...you have to in pay for play...Rimmer and Milan don't for the most part...look for Milan to pull away in 2nd half...but like I said...it's a pay for play vs a yellow bus game so it's only for bragging rights...USJ has never beaten Milan on the field except for a 1-0 forfeit they were awarded a few years ago but I won't go there....and I think Milan is smart enough to check at the line and run opposite Trey...Milan's Coach Morris is no dummy...I still say Milan 38-28....if I'm wrong I'll eat crow...as long as it's grilled...... Edited October 7, 2016 by cofo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReitzFan Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 cofo, please don't turn this into a private school vs. a play with what got off the yellow bus school. With just one glaring example that you won't refer too, that is a lost battle. Concerning the game, I would have to go with Milan in this game. Offensively, USJ is simply one dimensional as they only average 75.3 yards per game rushing. While it's no secret that USJ is pass happy, they should be able to rush for more yards per game than they do with the weapon they have on the offensive line. The more balanced offensive team, Milan, should have the advantage in my opinion. Defensively, I see Milan as the overall better team. USJ may have the best player, but Milan has the better and more balanced team. JMO and we will simply have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cofo Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) cofo, please don't turn this into a private school vs. a play with what got off the yellow bus school. With just one glaring example that you won't refer too, that is a lost battle. Concerning the game, I would have to go with Milan in this game. Offensively, USJ is simply one dimensional as they only average 75.3 yards per game rushing. While it's no secret that USJ is pass happy, they should be able to rush for more yards per game than they do with the weapon they have on the offensive line. The more balanced offensive team, Milan, should have the advantage in my opinion. Defensively, I see Milan as the overall better team. USJ may have the best player, but Milan has the better and more balanced team. JMO and we will simply have to wait and see. why is it not a private vs. a yellow bus battle....where am I wrong? Edited October 7, 2016 by cofo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReitzFan Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 (edited) why is it not a private vs. a yellow bus battle....where am I wrong? The year the Dogs had to forfeit a few games does not ring a bell??? Milan vs. USJ is just a game between two very good programs.....PERIOD. Let's leave the public v private debate out of it. Edited October 7, 2016 by ReitzFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cofo Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 The year the Dogs had to forfeit a few games does not ring a bell??? so USJ can recruit and Milan can't??...congrats on the 1-0 win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReitzFan Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 so USJ can recruit and Milan can't??...congrats on the 1-0 win... I am certainly not a USJ fan. I am simply sick and tired of public v private garbage. Just line up and play ball. Good luck to the 'Dogs. I do hope they prevail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cofo Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 so USJ can recruit and Milan can't??...congrats on the 1-0 win... I just can't understand why USJ got rid of coach Marley...who is a class act and won 75% of his games...me's suspects he never won a gold ball and that sticks in the craw of the USJ's power people...especially since JCS won one in 2006 in D!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cofo Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 I just can't understand why USJ got rid of coach Marley...who is a class act and won 75% of his games...me's suspects he never won a gold ball and that sticks in the craw of the USJ's power people...especially since JCS won one in 2006 in D!... I am certainly not a USJ fan. I am simply sick and tired of public v private garbage. Just line up and play ball. Good luck to the 'Dogs. I do hope they prevail. I respect that but you certainly don't think privates don't have an advantage over publics...look at Brentwood Academy back in the 70's 80's and 90's....multiple gold balls with one of the smallest schools in the state....their starting line was from 5 different states.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReitzFan Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 I just can't understand why USJ got rid of coach Marley...who is a class act and won 75% of his games...me's suspects he never won a gold ball and that sticks in the craw of the USJ's power people...especially since JCS won one in 2006 in D!... +1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReitzFan Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 I respect that but you certainly don't think privates don't have an advantage over publics...look at Brentwood Academy back in the 70's 80's and 90's....multiple gold balls with one of the smallest schools in the state....their starting line was from 5 different states.... I would not disagree with in a case like you described. However, to think that some publics are not getting kids from places other than where the school busses go is foolish. Too many examples of it in West Tennessee alone. Some of it may technically be legal, but that don't make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govolsknox Posted October 7, 2016 Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 I respect that but you certainly don't think privates don't have an advantage over publics...look at Brentwood Academy back in the 70's 80's and 90's....multiple gold balls with one of the smallest schools in the state....their starting line was from 5 different states.... Sir, honestly I know nothing of the intricacies of the two programs of USJ and Milan. Here's what I do know. 1. Reitz tried to give you a pass that Milan had it's own issue of not just playing with who got off the yellow bus. As the old expression goes, people in glass houses are wise not to start throwing stones. 2. USJ at LEAST has a separate division to level the playing field, and if they didn't have scholarship players eligible, a multiplier to level the playing field in D1. This is not for recruitment, but because D2 privates have a larger zone they can draw players from, and that they can offer scholarships, some of whom will apply to athletes. This has nothing to do with "recruitment" meaning a school making first contact to try to draw players to their program. Private OR public can be guilty of first contact. Fact. 3. I can assure you of one thing. I have no idea whether USJ ever made first contact in the past because I live in Knoxville and am a CAK fan. What I can tell you is that CRB will NEVER, EVER, NEVER, EVER touch any of that with a 10 foot pole. Number 1, he ethically couldn't make himself do it. I could tell confidential stories if I were so inclined of kids / parents coming to CAK to talk football and Rusty didn't give them the time of day, just sent them to the admissions department and told them after they had been through all of that, he'd be glad to talk football with them. You will not find a more anal follower of TSSAA rules than CRB. I admire him, but it is near obsessive. Some USJ supporters may even find it annoying.... 4. Some times you have something that is good, but not great, and you have to make a change to try for the "great." When you do this, you run the risk that things will go backwards either for a while or permanently, but the powers that be decided that the risk is worth it to achieve greatness. While I have no inside info, I suspect this is what happened here. I'll also make a prediction. This program isn't going backwards....There will be ups and downs like any school has year to year, but CRB is a rock star in the making, with the caveat that he already has proven it. So if someone has a need to hold on to past biases against a program I respect that. I don't know much that could ever get me to pull for Dobyns-Bennett, Maryville, or a few others, regardless of staff changes etc. I really do understand that. But if you can have an open mind, you are going to find that CRB is an offensive mastermind, incredible rising star, and runs as clean of a program that you will find. He also has the wonderful gift of being able to mentor young football players into becoming better men. Add to that he has the attention of a number of college coaches that understand that players under his study get a level of training that is almost unsurpassed for the college game at the HS level in TN, and you will see that he is not only a good hire, but a great coach to pull for. Finally I will just say that the offense is just plain fun to watch. You'll notice fans that had nothing to do with CAK, even a few Maryville fans, that would take their off weeks and come to the CAK game. One might win with say a Wing T, but watching an offense that throws it around the field using patterns and skill more like a small college than a HS is a lot of fun to watch, simply as a spectator with no particular rooting interest. Good luck to both teams this week! Prayers for a clean game and no injuries! And regardless of the outcome of this particular game, good luck to the teams that have to face USJ over the next few years. I truly don't believe they have any idea. Just my opinions. Your mileage may vary. Disclaimer: I am NOT a USJ fan, I am a CAK fan, so I speak only for myself and in no way associate my positions with those of the USJ team or faithful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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