bonesaw Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I believe what his majesty is trying to say is that, although Beech tied Mt. Juliet at districts and MJ won on criteria, Beech was not a very good duals team due to injurys. Beech has some solid wrestlers that should go far at state and accumulate a lot of team points. Beech will finish higher as an individual team versus a duals team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahawk8 Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I'm not on here enough to know if what I'm seeing is the latest or a month old but on the pin-tn site this seems to be how they are ranking the kids. This seems all jacked up to me. Am I looking at the wrong site, wrong date? 2/9/17 Update Team Rankings:1. Father Ryan2. McCallie3. Christian Brothers4. Baylor5. MBA6. Brentwood Academy7. BGA8. MUS 106- 1. Clayton Pettway (Baylor)2. Paul Killian (Ryan)3. Eddie Suh (McCallie)4. Gehrig Salvaggio (CBHS)5. Maverick Rorie (Briarcrest)6. Frank Perazinni (MBA) 113- 1. Christian Simpson (Ryan)2. John Pettway (Baylor)3. Alex Whitworth (McCallie)4. Carlo Guinocor (MUS)5. Adam Garfinkle (MBA)6. Jackson Herring (CBHS) 120- 1. Gabriel Elkin (MBA)2. Zach Ward (McCallie)3. Luke Collins (Baylor)4. Dalton Kilpatrick (St. Ben)5. Connor Galvez (Ensworth)6. Tyler Lubin (CBHS) 126- 1. Raymond Eason (Ryan)2. Joseph Tarquine (MBA)3. Zack Tieng (Knox Webb)4. Haden Hardine (Baylor)5. David Carnahan (DCA)6. Ty Reed (BGA) 132- 1. Brock Herring (McCallie)2. Michael Elkin (MBA)3. Robert Griggs (CBHS)4. Gerard Bullock (Ensworth)5. Joey Vogelpohl (Ryan)6. Logan Spell (Brentwood Ac) 138- 1. Austin Atchley (Baylor)2. John Glover (MBA)3. Victor Ortale (Ensworth)4. Connor Rasberry (CBHS)5. Matthew Doucette (St. George)6. Jacob Roberts (McCallie) 145- 1. Trevor Brown (CBHS)2. Alex Atchley (Baylor)3. Bryce Whittman (MBA)4. Thomas Sell (McCallie)5. Conner Mitchell (BGA)6. Brett Newman (Briarcrest) 152- 1. Eli King (Ryan)2. Ethan Dendy (McCallie)3. Jake Knaff (MUS)4. Matthew Wigley (CBHS)5. Furman Jones (Brentwood Ac)6. Kolton Grimsley (BGA) 160- 1. Mason Reiniche (Baylor)2. Perry Matthews (MBA)3. Drew Nicholson (CBHS)4. Russell Barry (McCallie)5. Thomas Wells (MUS)6. Houston Crouch (Ryan) 170- 1. Tommy Brackett (CBHS)2. Riley Westlake (Baylor)3. Hayden Rowland (McCallie)4. Thomas Butler (Brentwood Ac)5. Anthony Hagey (Ryan)6. Clay Garstin (MBA) 182- 1. Khamari Whimper (Baylor)2. Judah Duhm (McCallie)3. Andrew Wesnoske (Ryan)4. Ian Tiatia (Briarcrest)5. Erik Richardson (MUS)6. Dominic Fisher (MBA) 195- 1. George Hooker (Ryan)2. Keegan Jones (CBHS)3. Braden Murphy (Brentwood Ac)4. Nathaniel Taylor (Ensworth) 220- 1. Greyson Walthall (CBHS)2. Max Schott (Brentwood Ac)3. Tyree Tolliver (Baylor)4. Josiah Fohhoum (Briarcrest)5. Eli Christenbury (MUS)6. Wyeth Patton (MBA) 285- 1. River Henry (McCallie)2. Airin Spell (Brentwood Ac)3. Patrick Healy (CBHS)4. Tymon Mitchell (FRA)5. Alex Green (Briarcrest) 6. Ryan Jackson (Friendship Chr) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingGreene Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Exactly as Bonesaw said.... A team with 14 good wrestlers can beat a team with 6 studs and 8 duds. But those 14 good wrestlers may not be able to do anything at the state level while those 6 studs can all get state medals and their team ends up in the top 5 regardless of what the other 8 do. Not saying that is the exact situation with Beech or MJ, but my point is that some teams will perform much better at an individual tournament than a dual. Also, the Region tournament is not always the best measuring stick either when comparing two teams to how they'll do at State. One team may have a bunch of kids that can score points at the Region level but may go 0-2 at State because it's much tougher competition. That team may beat or stay close with the team with 6 studs in Region, but not be anywhere close at the end of the State tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarshall7 Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I would struggle to call Mt. Juliet a darkhorse, since they have performed very well this year. In state duals they took Tennessee High to the limit first round. They don't get a lot of "airtime" but they can be a solid top 5 team and could place at least six. I believe both MJ and Beech will be top 5. And given the opportunity, I'd take the 6 studs vs 14 average wrestlers every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrakid8 Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Tmarshall, depends on what you want to do with them, win state dual title no, I would take a few studs mixed with some really good wrestlers instead of 6 studs and the rest get me absolutely nothing but get stuck, much easier in a individual tourney though with 6 studs and rest duds because even if they get tough draws they can usually make it out while you aren't counting on the others to do anything anyways. Me I would rather have a tough dual team strong top to bottom but to each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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