workinprogress Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I somewhat remember the older one I think if it was a few years back. Thanks for the information. Again I'm just trying to see why the expectations are so high if it hasn't been done in the last two decades at least. I think Coach E was pretty good and a lot of people think highly of Coach T that was previously there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ManFront Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, workinprogress said: What was the record in 2008 and 2010. Remember I asked for two consecutive years. Also you really can't go by district/region records because they change every other year. Region and / or district record is all that matters according to TSSAA unless considering tie breakers Edited December 8, 2017 by 8ManFront Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinprogress Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Correct when thinking playoffs. However, if you look at the whole body of work of a coach I would tend to look at the whole picture not just district/region. So again when was the last time SH had a better two year record. No one seems to want to answer that question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ManFront Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) the Point that you seem to be missing is what was written after the stats of 2009 unless admin changes the attitude and gets on board as far as letting the head coach choose his staff (hire / fire) and allows the HC control of schedule and makes it so they can lift during school hours the ability to MAINTAIN success is impossible. There have been good coaches to come in there and temporarily fix the problem but they can’t maintain it because the admin doesn’t care enough to allow them what is needed to maintain success how do you keep a good coach when he is not given what he needs or is promised? Throwing a 2 year record out there means no more than me throwing a one year record out there. There were NO division 1 recruits on the team I mentioned. Why did Emmons leave? I guarantee you he was not getting what he was promised in the beginning. Edited December 8, 2017 by 8ManFront Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinprogress Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 I looked it up. You have to go back 20 years to find teams that had back to back successful years. The point I am making is that it is not a problem with Coach E as others stated on here. There are much deeper problems which you seem to have just stated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URSUS Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, 8ManFront said: the Point that you seem to be missing is what was written after the stats of 2009 unless admin changes the attitude and gets on board as far as letting the head coach choose his staff (hire / fire) and allows the HC control of schedule and makes it so they can lift during school hours the ability to MAINTAIN success is impossible. There have been good coaches to come in there and temporarily fix the problem but they can’t maintain it because the admin doesn’t care enough to allow them what is needed to maintain success how do you keep a good coach when he is not given what he needs or is promised? Throwing a 2 year record out there means no more than me throwing a one year record out there. There were NO division 1 recruits on the team I mentioned. Why did Emmons leave? I guarantee you he was not getting what he was promised in the beginning. Sometimes the school administration does support athletics and school district does not. No matter how "pro-athletics" your principal is if the central office and school board do not believe athletics are important then your program will struggle. And the number of districts that see athletics as important and vital to the school is shrinking every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ManFront Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, URSUS said: Sometimes the school administration does support athletics and school district does not. No matter how "pro-athletics" your principal is if the central office and school board do not believe athletics are important then your program will struggle. And the number of districts that see athletics as important and vital to the school is shrinking every year. Agreed and then some especially in Maury County Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocac Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Not sure why some think Spring Hill can be good consistently. Since 2001 (17 seasons), they are 55-125 with only 2 winning seasons in that span. 2 seasons with 0 wins, 3 seasons with only 1 win and 2 seasons with only 2 wins. Huge hill to climb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W.I.T. Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, ocac said: Not sure why some think Spring Hill can be good consistently. Since 2001 (17 seasons), they are 55-125 with only 2 winning seasons in that span. 2 seasons with 0 wins, 3 seasons with only 1 win and 2 seasons with only 2 wins. Huge hill to climb. Because the talent is there. Look at Marshall and Giles County. Two similar programs that are awful without the proper coaches and pretty darn good with quality coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollowman Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 1 hour ago, W.I.T. said: Because the talent is there. Look at Marshall and Giles County. Two similar programs that are awful without the proper coaches and pretty darn good with quality coaches. True statement. That entire area is loaded with talent and has been for years. Columbia, SH, Lewisburg, and Pulaski are all prime athletic hotbeds. Coaching and community support is what sets each one apart from the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyRadcliff Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 9:25 AM, purple75gold said: This was just a reflection of a guy taking a job that was not ready to be a head coach. The kids not wanting to play because it was cold was a direct reflection of him not having any control of the players. 13-12 with the talent on this team is a travesty. Yeah they made it to the third and second round but that was because of the talent on the field and not his coaching. They were .500 during the regular season both seasons when they should've been challenging marshall for the region each year. The powers that be shouldn't have to look to far to find the replacement since they already made him the interim head coach. Ben Martin is the right person to take Spring Hill back to where they should be. He will be great for the kids and the community of Spring Hill. Johnny hears this Martin man is the front runner for the job, but aint he one of the 2 assistants left from previous coach? Word is Emmons was forced to keep 2 assistants on staff, and those were the guys who went Julius Caesar style on em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoardHater71 Posted December 13, 2017 Report Share Posted December 13, 2017 5 hours ago, JohnnyRadcliff said: Johnny hears this Martin man is the front runner for the job, but aint he one of the 2 assistants left from previous coach? Word is Emmons was forced to keep 2 assistants on staff, and those were the guys who went Julius Caesar style on em. Eh tu Brutus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.