Bighurt Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 ...and hopefully it always will be inappropriate. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baller1 Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 i think that you should be able to cuss a player and even get a little violent with him or her.but not to violent.like you said this is not chess or monoploy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeballer63 Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 (edited) Well if you have ever been cursed by coach gatewood or coach davis on the ooltewah football feild, it will not only motivate you but scare you straight, and I dont understand what god has to do with this oldtimeballer??? please explain. I didnt think this was a religion posting site God has a lot to do with this subject. No, this is not a "religion posting site" -- but it's about time people stand up against taking the name of the Lord in vain (as many coaches and players do). Back in my day -- we had coaches who were great instructors of the game -- and guess what -- they didn't have to cuss their players to motivate them to win. It is sad to think that anyone has to use profanity in order to get someone to do something they want them to accomplish. Everyone doesn't have to be like a Bobby Knight. Think about Tom Landry, who won 2 Super Bowls with the Cowboys without having to cuss his players out. Or how about John Wooden. Throughout his career Wooden, who led UCLA to 10 national championships, showed respect for his players, for the fans, and for the officials. In all his years as coach, John Wooden prohibited his players from any use of profanity, and consistently avoided it himself. Well, I guess he wasn't much of a coach, was he? Oh, by the way, we have a great coach right here in Chattanooga by the name of Dan Wadley that has won the last two Class A Basketball Championships at Temple without using profanity with players. Something to think about, isn't it? Edited January 13, 2004 by oldtimeballer63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mav Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 No everyone doesn't have to be like Bobby Knight, but Bobby Knight is out there, and so is Bill Parcells, and so was Vince Lombardi and so was Earl Weaver and Casey Stengal, anybody think they weren't great coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayaHata4eva Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 all of you people are wrong. i believe the coach should cuss their players out if they do not see the effort from them in the game. you have to get their attention somehow, and if you just say some crap like "it's ok" or "your not doing a good job" is not enough to motivate someone. i know for a fact you couldn't motivate me without putting a few bad words in my ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbm Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 it is a sad day when a coach has to stoop that low to cuss, the problem does not need to go before school board members, this problem needs to stop at thetop dog of the school. if he wants to ignore this problem, then it is just one person who can stop this .the director of schools,he can remove the princpal and put someone in there who will stop this kind of behavior once and for all. and this needs to happened because these are tenagers not adults SO STOP THE CUSSING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeballer63 Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 No everyone doesn't have to be like Bobby Knight, but Bobby Knight is out there, and so is Bill Parcells, and so was Vince Lombardi and so was Earl Weaver and Casey Stengal, anybody think they weren't great coaches. I didn't say any of those guys weren't or aren't good coaches, but I still don't think you need to use profanity to coach anyone. Just because those guys do it doesn't make it right, nor does it mean you have to follow their example to be a good coach. The bottom line is -- what is morally and decently right. I still believe there ought to be some rules and regulations when it comes to coaching our young people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mav Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 oldtime, That's the whole point! Coaches are ruled and regulated to the point where they can't sneeze without some parent running them to an administrator for deliberately spreading germs on their precious baby. In theory the no cursing rule is fine, of course none of us prefer cursing. In practcality it is just another way for parent to try and have control over the team that their child plays on, even though they know little to nothing about the sport. That's also what this thread is about, "let me get some support for my no cussing stance and promote a black and white no cussing policy which doesn't care what words were said or in what context". It's all so stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeballer63 Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 oldtime, That's the whole point! Coaches are ruled and regulated to the point where they can't sneeze without some parent running them to an administrator for deliberately spreading germs on their precious baby. In theory the no cursing rule is fine, of course none of us prefer cursing. In practcality it is just another way for parent to try and have control over the team that their child plays on, even though they know little to nothing about the sport. That's also what this thread is about, "let me get some support for my no cussing stance and promote a black and white no cussing policy which doesn't care what words were said or in what context". It's all so stupid. I don't believe it's about the parents wanting control at all. I also tend to believe that many of the parents do know as much or more about the game than many of the coaches. Yes, my experience as a coach has been that there are some parents who do want to control things (usually wanting their kid to get PT) and yes, there are many who don't have a clue about the game, but when it comes to subjecting kids to vulgar and indecent language -- it is the parents right to confront and complain to the coaches (or administration) for their wrongful reactions and actions, and it is our responsibilty as coaches to treat our young people in a decent and encouraging way. And by the way, they are our "precious' babies -- and no, it is not stupid to enforce a no cussing policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnwine Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Should we let the players cuss openly during the practice? Probably not because its a tech in the game. I agree with Mav in that don't punish the coach who lets slip an occassional mild profanity, but openly cussing a player has passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mctigersportsfan Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Do they cuss in the classroom ???? NO Why should they be allowed to cuss during practice or a game -- this is an extension of the classroom. Students are detained in ISS and other forms of punishment for profanity in school -- Why shouldn't a coach/teacher be held to the same standards ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopaholic Posted January 14, 2004 Report Share Posted January 14, 2004 Those of you of think it is ok or even necessary to cuss players-question-Would it motivate or inspire you to do your job better if you were cussed by your boss/supervisor? I won't even address the post that thought it was ok to get violent ("just not to violent"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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