pride&tradition Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I REALLY LOVE OC REBEL BASKETBALL AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE THIS TEAM FALL AS FAR AS IT HAS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. I WAS NOTICING THAT THEY GOT SOME GREAT SOPHMORES AND FRESHMEN A COUPLE JUNIORS WITH ALOT OF POTENTIAL AND A GOOD CLASS COMING UP. IM JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ON THE THOUGHT OF THESE GUYS WINNING AND BEING COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS. NOW I KNOW IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE COACH THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS AND ADMINSTRATION SATYING OUT OF THE WAY, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CAN? I KNOW THAT ABOUT FIVE FRESHMEN AND ALMOST ALL THE SOPHMORE CLASS HAS THE ABILITY TO BE CONTRIBUTIVE TO THE TEAM IF GIVEN THE CHANCE AND THEY HAVE A LOAD OF POTENTIAL IF THEY GET SOMEBODY IN THERE TO KICK THEM INTO GEAR( PARENTS INCLUDED ). SO DO YOU THINK THESE GUYS CAN WIN NOW AND RETURN THIS PROGRAM TO PROMINANCE?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunatic Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 I REALLY LOVE OC REBEL BASKETBALL AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE THIS TEAM FALL AS FAR AS IT HAS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. I WAS NOTICING THAT THEY GOT SOME GREAT SOPHMORES AND FRESHMEN A COUPLE JUNIORS WITH ALOT OF POTENTIAL AND A GOOD CLASS COMING UP. IM JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ON THE THOUGHT OF THESE GUYS WINNING AND BEING COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS. NOW I KNOW IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE COACH THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS AND ADMINSTRATION SATYING OUT OF THE WAY, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CAN? I KNOW THAT ABOUT FIVE FRESHMEN AND ALMOST ALL THE SOPHMORE CLASS HAS THE ABILITY TO BE CONTRIBUTIVE TO THE TEAM IF GIVEN THE CHANCE AND THEY HAVE A LOAD OF POTENTIAL IF THEY GET SOMEBODY IN THERE TO KICK THEM INTO GEAR( PARENTS INCLUDED ). SO DO YOU THINK THESE GUYS CAN WIN NOW AND RETURN THIS PROGRAM TO PROMINANCE?? 825580356[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volunatic Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Can they win with the kids you just talked about? YES!! Can the board/parents & faculty get out of the way? PROBABLY NOT!! So this brings us to point #3, can they get a good coach? ALSO PROBABLY NOT WITH ALL THE ADDED BAGGAGE THAT THE PARENTS / FANS BRING TO THE TABLE. IT IS REALLY SO SAD THAT THE PARENTS/FANS THINK THEY ARE HELPING, BUT DEEP DOWN ALL MOST OF THEM WANT IS FOR THEIR KID/GRANDKID, ETC TO PLAY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T DESERVE THE PLAYING TIME. I REALLY HOPE GREER GOES SOMEWHERE & WINS, JUST LIKE WHITBY AT LAKE COUNTY, & HOFFMAN'S TEAMS AT PEABODY ARE STILL WINNING AND THE LADY REBS WON THE DISTRICT THIS YEAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.basketball Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 WELL, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COACHES THAT HAVE BEEN RAN OUT OF THEIR JOB AT OC. JUST LOOK AT THE TEAMS THAT THEM COACHES HAVE LEFT BEHIND.I BELEIVE IT SPEAKS FOR IT'S SELF. ON ANOTHER POST THAT I HAD READ EARLIER. I READ THAT THE PROGRAM WOULD BE TURNED AROUND BECAUS A KNOWN COACH IN THE KENN-TENN AREA WAS GOING TO BE HIRED. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS . COULD ANYONE ELABORATE ON THAT? OH BY THE WAY, IF THE RIGHT ADMINISTRATION WAS THERE THE COACHS WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE BOTHERED BY THE PARENTS BECAUSE HE OR SHE(COACHS) WOULD GET THE BACKING THAT IS NEEDED. PLEASE SCHOOL BOARD AND ADMINISTRATION PUT OUR REBELS BACK ON THE MAP. GO REBELS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachnobody Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 A COACH CAN ONLY INSTRUCT A PLAYER ON WHAT TO DO DURING A GAME, HE CAN NOT GO ONTO THE COURT AND DO THE JOB CORRECTLY FOR THE STUDENT. DON'T KNOCK THE COACH UNLESS YOU CAN STEP INSIDE HIS SHOE'S!! THE DEVELOPMENT OF TALENT BEFORE THE STUDENT ENTER'S THE FRESHMAN YEAR IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM. ALL FOUR FEEDER SCHOOL'S FOR OCCHS HAVE A COMMON GOAL (WIN! WIN! WIN!) AND NOT (TEACH! TEACH! TEACH!). THESE FOUR HAD RATHER PLAY THE WEAKEST TEAM'S IN THE AREA IN WIN! RATHER THAN RISK A LOST IN THEIR RECORD'S BY PLAYING A TEAM WHERE THEY MIGHT GET BEAT BADLY!!!!!! (UC, TRENTON, DYERSBURG, JACKSON) BESIDE'S, MOST PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS AREA, HAVE HEAD COACHES THAT INSTRUCT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHES ON THE COMMON PATH THAT WILL MAKE HIS/HER TEAM STRONGER WHEN THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL. AS FAR AS COMPARING ORANGES WITH APPLES OR IS IT APPLE'S WITH APPLE'S. COACHES ARE IN CONTROL OF THE COMPARING, NOT THE PARENTS OR THE FANS! NO PLAYER IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN THEIR OWN KID TO A PARENT. LET'S COMPARE, FIVE FRESHMEN WHO GET BEAT BY 30 PTS IN A FRESHMAN GAME (TO) A PARENT SAYING THAT THESE FIVE ARE BETTER THAN THE OTHERS THAT START ON THE VARSITY. IN THE REAL WORLD! THE OTHER TEAM'S FRESHMAN ARE BETTER THAN OUR FRESHMEN AND THEY WILL NEVER SEE ACTION ON THE COURT IN A VARSITY GAME WITH THEIR TEAM(S) PERIOD!!!! THUS, THEIR TEAMS ARE SUPERIOR AND WE ARE AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM. IT'S EASY TO BLAME THE COACHES FOR THE LACK OF WINNING AND VERY, VERY HARD TO PUT BLAME ON THE ONE'S WHO ARE ACTUALLY PLAYING. ***( IF YOU LISTEN TO RUMOR MILL AND YOU MUST DO! SINCE YOU ARE READING THIS POST!!! COACH HATCHER AT GRAVES CO. IS SET TO RETIRE THIS YEAR IN KY. AND WILL BE SEEKING ANOTHER JOB SINCE HE IS NOT 65, YET) thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachnobody Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 A COACH CAN ONLY INSTRUCT A PLAYER ON WHAT TO DO DURING A GAME, HE CAN NOT GO ONTO THE COURT AND DO THE JOB CORRECTLY FOR THE STUDENT. DON'T KNOCK THE COACH UNLESS YOU CAN STEP INSIDE HIS SHOE'S!! THE DEVELOPMENT OF TALENT BEFORE THE STUDENT ENTER'S THE FRESHMAN YEAR IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM. ALL FOUR FEEDER SCHOOL'S FOR OCCHS HAVE A COMMON GOAL (WIN! WIN! WIN!) AND NOT (TEACH! TEACH! TEACH!). THESE FOUR HAD RATHER PLAY THE WEAKEST TEAM'S IN THE AREA IN WIN! RATHER THAN RISK A LOST IN THEIR RECORD'S BY PLAYING A TEAM WHERE THEY MIGHT GET BEAT BADLY!!!!!! (UC, TRENTON, DYERSBURG, JACKSON) BESIDE'S, MOST PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS AREA, HAVE HEAD COACHES THAT INSTRUCT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHES ON THE COMMON PATH THAT WILL MAKE HIS/HER TEAM STRONGER WHEN THEY GET TO HIGH SCHOOL. AS FAR AS COMPARING ORANGES WITH APPLES OR IS IT APPLE'S WITH APPLE'S. COACHES ARE IN CONTROL OF THE COMPARING, NOT THE PARENTS OR THE FANS! NO PLAYER IS GOING TO BE BETTER THAN THEIR OWN KID TO A PARENT. LET'S COMPARE, FIVE FRESHMEN WHO GET BEAT BY 30 PTS IN A FRESHMAN GAME (TO) A PARENT SAYING THAT THESE FIVE ARE BETTER THAN THE OTHERS THAT START ON THE VARSITY. IN THE REAL WORLD! THE OTHER TEAM'S FRESHMAN ARE BETTER THAN OUR FRESHMEN AND THEY WILL NEVER SEE ACTION ON THE COURT IN A VARSITY GAME WITH THEIR TEAM(S) PERIOD!!!! THUS, THEIR TEAMS ARE SUPERIOR AND WE ARE AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM. IT'S EASY TO BLAME THE COACHES FOR THE LACK OF WINNING AND VERY, VERY HARD TO PUT BLAME ON THE ONE'S WHO ARE ACTUALLY PLAYING. ***( IF YOU LISTEN TO RUMOR MILL AND YOU MUST DO! SINCE YOU ARE READING THIS POST!!! COACH HATCHER AT GRAVES CO. IS SET TO RETIRE THIS YEAR IN KY. AND WILL BE SEEKING ANOTHER JOB SINCE HE IS NOT 65, YET) thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride&tradition Posted February 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 coachnobody i dont agree with the statement that you made about the junior high programs. programs like hillcrest and lake road are staples as contenders almost every year in this region. they work harder than the high school team does if you ask me. and to win win win they have to work work work and thats what the coaches do in those programs. and also, in this case you can put part of the blame on the players but alot goes on the coaches. i mean if you watch the games then what the parents are screaming is right. the bench they got is jsut as talented if not more than what they got on the floor. buckland and seth johnson are the only ones that the younger classes cant touch and buckland's gone. if the right coach who is willing to work players so they know how to not get beat by 30 and that there isnt a complaint about the freshmen or whoever being better than the ones on the floor then youll always hear talk. and the rumor mill is running at a face pace i hear a new name every day. from what i hear the players AND fans would love coach hatcher. and speaking of the feeder programs, how much of a chance do you think those coaches from those programs got. you know, guys like bill kail(hillcrest) who is a disciple of Whitby and is a hardworker like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.basketball Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 OK, I'LL AGREE THAT A PLAYER IS A STUDENT BUT IF A COACH PRACTICES WITH HIS OR HER TEAM. WHAT YOU DO IN PRACTICE IS WHAT YOU DO IN A GAME. SO, THE INSTRUCTION SHOULD BE THE SAME. AS FAR AS, KNOCKING THE COACH, DAVIS HAD THREE TEAMS DROPPED IN HIS LAP AND WAS TOLD TO DO HIS BEST. I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY DIDN'T GIVE HIM ANY HELP. ABOUT THE TALENT, LAST YEAR THE LAKE ROAD BUNCH BEAT UC DOWN AT JACKSON (BAD). AND THAT TEAM HAD FOUR OF THE FRESHMAN TEAM ON IT. AS FOR THE COACHES AT THE FEEDER SCHOOLS, I THINK COACH GREY (WHO'LL BE BACK THIS YEAR) AND COACH KAIL ARE A COUPLE OF THE FINEST FUNDAMENTAL COACHES AROUND. SO SAYING THAT THE FRESHMAN, SOPHOMORE, AND JUNIOR CLASSES WASN'T TAUGHT FUNDAMENTALS IS AN EXCUSE. PRACTICE MAKES BETTER PLAYERS AND BETTER PLAYERS MAKE BETTER TEAMS.( ALONG WITH DISCIPLINE). GO REBELS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbirdfan Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 WELL< Whoever is bestowed upon with the title of Head Coach at Obion Central, let's all give that person(whether it be male or female) or full support as they work with these kids to put the best competitive team on the floor thumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warmachine7954 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 A coach is a teacher, point blank, if you dont practice hard then you dont play hard, if you dont play hard there is a very good possibility you will get beat. As for the feeder schools in Obion Co. I cant say how they work Its weird to me how they dont play in the WTAC which I think would benifit them and the Division. Hillcrest seems to win alot but I dont know who they play. The Division this year was tough and very competitive wit hsome promising young players. I know Im a little off the subject, but the Jr. High is where kids are taught skills and hard work for the High School program. There is alot here in West Tn and if they dont get a good coach in at OC then all that talent will go to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon03 Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I REALLY LOVE OC REBEL BASKETBALL AND IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE THIS TEAM FALL AS FAR AS IT HAS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS. I WAS NOTICING THAT THEY GOT SOME GREAT SOPHMORES AND FRESHMEN A COUPLE JUNIORS WITH ALOT OF POTENTIAL AND A GOOD CLASS COMING UP. IM JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THINK ON THE THOUGHT OF THESE GUYS WINNING AND BEING COMPETITIVE WITHIN THE NEXT THREE TO FOUR YEARS. NOW I KNOW IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE COACH THE KIDS AND THE PARENTS AND ADMINSTRATION SATYING OUT OF THE WAY, BUT DO YOU THINK THAT THEY CAN? I KNOW THAT ABOUT FIVE FRESHMEN AND ALMOST ALL THE SOPHMORE CLASS HAS THE ABILITY TO BE CONTRIBUTIVE TO THE TEAM IF GIVEN THE CHANCE AND THEY HAVE A LOAD OF POTENTIAL IF THEY GET SOMEBODY IN THERE TO KICK THEM INTO GEAR( PARENTS INCLUDED ). SO DO YOU THINK THESE GUYS CAN WIN NOW AND RETURN THIS PROGRAM TO PROMINANCE?? 825580356[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCRebel Posted February 25, 2005 Report Share Posted February 25, 2005 Well, who ever is the coach....you ppl have to quit shouting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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