GFD, I don't think you or OnB are downing the team at all. I get the frustration. To a certain degree, you aren't even downing the coach really, but the situation ... or the reason for the situation, I guess I should say. When something like this happens at a school without tradition, then no one really notices. But when it happens to a place like Greenback, if it happened to us, then there would be a lot of frustration. Can you imagine Alcoa or Oakland going through what you all are going through?