Libero?

[CrimsonSet21]

Personally, I'm all for this libero in highschool, especially post season because last year was almost pointless to allow it. Like someone said, who would use it if it wasn't appicable during the state tournament? Not me...

 

I have played libero for my club team at points in the year and really really enjoyed it. It was so cool to just be able to run in the game and not have to sub. The score table never seemed to have trouble with it either. I don't think it makes it more complicated or takes away from other players; it just allows more options for everyone on the team. The most big middles wouldn't get to play back row anyway, so who is that taking away from? By not allowing the libero, I think it would be limiting the possibilities for defensive girls. It's allowed in club and college, so I'm not really seeing an argument for allowing the libero to take away from other players.

 

On the argument of wanting a DS to serve instead of a MB- why is a girl on the court that can't serve? If she can hit a ball, she should be able to serve. Just because a girl is big doesn't mean they are totally uncoordinated. If they would hurt the team so badly to be passing while serving, they probably shouldn't ever be on the court. Being big shouldn't give someone an excuse to be a bad server/passer . Granted, a DS would be a better server/passer most of the time, but I think the good of the libero outweighs the bad.

 

Thanks for reading... have a good one!

[KYdigsTN]

 

I'm not really seeing an argument for allowing the libero to take away from other players.

 

 

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A libero does not take away ANY playing time from a MB or another front row player. It "usually" takes away playing time from another DS. A libero that comes in back row for both MB's after they serve will play almost 6 full rotations on the back row in one cycle. This would normally be split by TWO DS's under old high school rules. Now with the libero, ONE libero can do it all. That eliminates the need for one passer completely. Thats the argument whether you agree or disagree with the use of a libero. The position will be good for the flow of the game, will most likely improve passing defense, but does usually come at a cost for one smaller player. That's all I'm saying. I'm still somewhat on the fence, but I lean towards it not being a good thing for high school volleyball "players" unless you happen to BE the libero of course and not the girl on the bench that lost their spot in the rotation to one.

[ComPassion]

Well said KY.

 

Crimson, that's why a tm you know either didn't use one or only used the libero for one of the front row players. Making a lineup that way saves on sub count and allows that 9th or 10th girl to be a volleyball player.

[play4keeps]

Ya got me. I went back and re-read the new NFHS rules (link) and if you read them quite literally, it reads, "The libero can only be replaced by the player whom he/she replaced." (B2). At first glance, it would appear it's a one-player deal. But as you said, if that were so, why bother? I've seen enough college ball to know that's not the case at all. Good call, digs!

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My daughter played 4 club seasons at this position and here's what I know:

 

A libero can replace ANY player in the backrow...however, if she comes in for player "A" then she must come out for player "A". She can then go in for player "B" but player "B" must come back in for her (when she reaches the front row rotation).

 

So, in theory, a libero could play the entire game coming in at right back, moving to middle then left back, coming out for a serve rotation and going back in a right back, and so on.

 

BTW, new women's NCAA rules are that although a libero cannot play front row, she can now serve...so expect in a few years this may be our future.

[TheGreatLineJudge]

My daughter played 4 club seasons at this position and here's what I know:

 

A libero can replace ANY player in the backrow...however, if she comes in for player "A" then she must come out for player "A". She can then go in for player "B" but player "B" must come back in for her (when she reaches the front row rotation).

 

So, in theory, a libero could play the entire game coming in at right back, moving to middle then left back, coming out for a serve rotation and going back in a right back, and so on.

 

BTW, new women's NCAA rules are that although a libero cannot play front row, she can now serve...so expect in a few years this may be our future.

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You're right, keeps. As of last season, the libero is indeed allowed to serve. And as you also said, she can come in and out for A, then in and out for B. I've seen this happen in several matches. I think it's only a matter of time before we're at full NCAA rules. Some states, including Massachusetts, are strict NCAA.

[snvball12cosby]

BTW, new women's NCAA rules are that although a libero cannot play front row, she can now serve...so expect in a few years this may be our future.

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Wow, that's awesome! I'm really excited about this!

[ace32_35]

so what is the basic job of the libero?

[play4keeps]

so what is the basic job of the libero?

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The role of the libero is to be a defensive specialist. This player is the best digger/passer on the team.

[just4fun]

As an old timer, some one who played volleyball a decade ago, I can't help but feel a little bit hesitant to accept the idea of a libero.

 

Although I see the advantages it brings to a team to have your defensive specialist on the court as much as possible I can't help but feel like it changes the game quite a bit.

 

I can't help but wonder...

 

why don't we just eliminate rotating? We could put six players on the floor who specialize in thier position. They could just play their position the entire game just like they do in every other sport.

 

It seems like the rotation is what made volleyball a little different than all other sports. In Softball, your pitcher is always your pitcher, first baseman is always your first baseman etc... In volleyball players have to be somewhat profitient in all of the positions.

 

The more we specialize the more that changes. Why don't we just do away with rotating and let everyone specialize and stay in their position through the whole game?

 

(Like I said, this is a slightly sarcastic response by an older, traditionalist who is having a hard time accepting change)

 

 

Oh yeah, I had a question for clarification purposes.

How many liberos are allowed on a team. Is each team only allowed one per game/match or can they have several?

 

Thanks

Edited July 28, 2005 by just4fun

[ComPassion]

It doesn't really change anything ...except for the other short girl on the end of the bench crying.

[silverpie]

You may change liberi between games, but at no other time. (Also, the libero is the absolute last player allowed as an exceptional sub.)

 

It's definitely a good rule at high levels--with only six subs per game, there's barely room for a defensive specialist at all. Not so sure with the 18 subs allowed in high school.

[TheGreatLineJudge]

why don't we just eliminate rotating? We could put six players on the floor who specialize in thier position. They could just play their position the entire game just like they do in every other sport.

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And allow the same trio of 6'+ girls to stalk the other team all night? No way!