Oak Ridge vs Clinton

[OR nole]

A head coach in high school should consider ALL student/athletes participating in the game.

He should consider what the Clinton players were going through and called plays /subbed accordingly!

What comes around goes around!

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Instead of the ambiguous accusations of poor sportsmanship by various posters (who may or may not have been at the game). Let's have some specifics. What did OR do that you think was uncalled for?

 

I will defend the few passes by saying "if we don't pass now, how will we pass when we need to".

 

Anyone?

[ldcoach]

Instead of the ambiguous accusations of poor sportsmanship by various posters (who may or may not have been at the game). Let's have some specifics. What did OR do that you think was uncalled for?

 

I will defend the few passes by saying "if we don't pass now, how will we pass when we need to".

 

Anyone?

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A. I WAS at the game for the entire 4 quarters!

B. Oak Ridge was by far the dominant team.

C. Clinton not only was not as good, but did a poor job of blocking and tackling.

 

Having posted this, I will say this and be done with it. Let's move on to other games and put this game behind us on both sides.

 

1. I know that at least one Clinton staff member was highly upset when OR went on back to back fade patterns from roughly 40 yards outside against a 5'7" sophomore cornerback. The score at the time was 58-0. I guess if the first one didn't suceed, why not come back with it?

 

2. I thought that it was inappropriate and unsportsmanlike to announce over the PA immediately after OR scores their 74th point that OAK RIDGE HAS JUST BROKEN THE SCHOOL RECORD FOR MOST POINTS IN A SINGLE GAME. That is something that David Clary has every right and responsibilty to do on broadcast radio, or the PA in the postgame wrapup, but while the game is still going on?? I don't know that any thought was given to the timing of the PA announcement. The series between OR and Clinton is combative and tense at best. Both teams and schools need to move on, put this game behind them and hope that there are not future hard feelings as a result of this game.

 

As for me, I'm done with it-- Maryville is a big enough challenge to keep me occupied. Good luck to both teams for the remainder of the season!

[jedave30]

Did anyone notice the passing stats verus the run stats? I think OR scored once passing. I think the passing did Clinton some good. I think it would've been different if OR scored a lot passing. Holding back for OR was passing. If they would've continued to run, the score could've been worse. Have anyone taken that into consideration.

[cmsfan1]

Did anyone notice the passing stats verus the run stats?  I think OR scored once passing.  I think the passing did Clinton some good.  I think it would've been different if OR scored a lot passing.  Holding back for OR was passing.  If they would've continued to run, the score could've been worse.  Have anyone taken that into consideration.

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Passing is one thing, passing into the end zone is another....that's called trying to score.....

[OR nole]

Lots of respect to Idcoach for the insight. Those are valid points that can be defended depending on your point of view. I agree it's done and let's move on. When the whining stops (from others), the defending will stop.

[cmsfan1]

Instead of the ambiguous accusations of poor sportsmanship by various posters (who may or may not have been at the game). Let's have some specifics. What did OR do that you think was uncalled for?

 

I will defend the few passes by saying "if we don't pass now, how will we pass when we need to".

 

Anyone?

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I was there and they are not ambiguous accusations and OR are the only poor sports in this game...win or lose, you should do it with class. I guess it was "okay" when the OR Freshman coaches called a time-out (with 9 seconds to go in the game and leading 20-0!) and put their starters back in the game, because Clinton was getting ready to score....how do you defend that one? There is NO reasonable defense......like I said...NO CLASS..plain and simple!

[boyfromsi]

I was there and they are not ambiguous accusations and OR are the only poor sports in this game...win or lose, you should do it with class.  I guess it was "okay" when the OR Freshman coaches called a time-out (with 9 seconds to go in the game and leading 20-0!) and put their starters back in the game, because Clinton was getting ready to score....how do you defend that one?  There is NO reasonable defense......like I said...NO CLASS..plain and simple!

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Of course, that would be a different game; last night's freshman game. Sounds like the coaches didn't want Clinton to score. So they put back in the starting d-line to face Clinton's starters. Bad sportsmanship? Don't think so.

[cmsfan1]

Of course, that would be a different game; last night's freshman game.  Sounds like the coaches didn't want Clinton to score.  So they put back in the starting d-line to face Clinton's starters.  Bad sportsmanship?  Don't think so.

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Yes, different game....but same coaching...it all comes back to character..or there lack of.

[OR nole]

I consider an ambiguous statement to be one like "consider all students" or "oak ridge has no class". Providing detail such as "time out with 9 seconds" give us all an opportunity to concede or defend. Much more intelligent. I wasn't at the freshman game and don't know enough to defend the actions.

 

But the varsity DID NOT run the score up or the scoreboard could have easily shown 90. I wonder what Riverdale or Maryville coaches and fans think. They probably understand. I want Clinton to succeed, but if Clinton turns the ball over inside their 40 again this week, Maryville may well score 70. Many other teams may score a lot on Clinton.

 

Asking another team to lay down is pitiful.

[Cats meow]

Lets see.. Oak Ridge had 10 first downs in this game and 74 points. Lets see Oak Ridge scored one touchdown in the final 18 minutes of the game. That is not running up the score. Face it, Clinton is not a very good team. Probably great kids but they aren't as good as Oak Ridge.

As for what comes around goes around, since Clinton only beats Oak Ridge once every 10 years..oooooooo we're shaking... CMS if you think that the feelings of the Clinton players should be a factor in this you are living in the 8 and 9 year old leagues at the Boys Club. I bet if you ask the Clinton players if they would have liked to beat Oak Ridge by 74 they would say.. no way we would like to win 100-0. You need to worry about Maryville this week because as bad as Clinton's defense is be ready for another butt kicking. Define class? Is it when you lay down and tell kids that trying their best is not the thing to do? Get real..

Edited August 30, 2005 by Cats meow

[cmsfan1]

Lets see.. Oak Ridge had 10 first downs in this game and 74 points. Lets see Oak Ridge scored one touchdown in the final 18 minutes of the game. That is not running up the score. Face it, Clinton is not a very good team. Probably great kids but they aren't as good as Oak Ridge.

As for what comes around goes around, since Clinton only beats Oak Ridge once every 10 years..oooooooo we're shaking...  CMS if you think that the feelings of the  Clinton players should be a factor in this you are living in the 8 and 9 year old leagues at the Boys Club. I bet if you ask the Clinton players if they would have liked to beat Oak Ridge by 74 they would say.. no way we would like to win 100-0. You need to worry about Maryville this week because as bad as Clinton's defense is be ready for another butt kicking. Define class? Is it when you lay down and tell kids that trying their best is not the thing to do? Get real..

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Nobody ever said that Clinton was as good as Oak Ridge on the football field. That's not the point and you know it. Clinton may not beat OR in 10 years, but justice by someone will be sweet to see and it will come, just like last year. You just proved my point about being classless with your distasteful post...not take the kids feelings into consideration? Are you a parent????..what would have happened if Gulmire would have gotten hurt in your coaches way to prove himself..yes, you do have to think about the kids.....

[Cats meow]

We aren't talking about injuries we are talking about playing the game. Do you think Coach Stevens would jump and down when a Clinton player got hurt. Of course not. That would be classesless and I would call for his job. But scoring points in a game is the goal. We want to score more than you. Somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. You don't get it. Put yourself in the Oak Ridge players shoes and not just the Clinton kids shoes. You can't tell a kid not to play hard. Ask any of them. They want to score as many points as they can. I am sure you are a mother and I respect that but the game is played hard and only one team walks away happy.

Edited August 30, 2005 by Cats meow