Show Time Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I'll go with the defense but unless he has improved a bunch that is all he has. I've played against him for years, and he's decent but nothin special. I'll put it this way, if Dunn is as good as I've been hearing, he should be playing over Cates. I might be and idiot or a genious,but I think you are crazy one of the main reason we even stayed close to Cookeville and Sparta was Wilson Cates.Yes ,Chase Dunn may be better than Cates by the time he is a senoir .Cates is one of the best point guards in this state,and yeah, this does sound like i am another on the bandwagon ,but i am not.I just think this is someone talking not knowing what they are aguing about.You need to come to more games is all I am saying.After he's won state,hopefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweety Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Dunn is a GREAT ball player. But Cates is a natural born leader. He brings more to the team than whats in the stat books. But yes, he can Handle the Rock. I think we may be jumping the gun on Chase. He is good. But, lets not just keep giving him stuff to live up to and putting unneeded pressure on him just yet. In due time.. In due time... GO HOG-EYE Good post. I don't think it is fair to compare Dunn to Cates right now. Like General said Cates is a natural born leader and he will continue to be a leader this year. Maybe in the years to come we will be able to say the same about Dunn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Play 4 Fun Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I have no problems with Wilson Cates. I like him, I like his father, they are both good people. The only problem is that alot of people think he ia alot better than he actually is. I have watched him plenty, and he is not one of the best point gaurds in the state, he can lead, that's his job, but he is no where near the basketball player that the people in Livingston give him credit for. I am not saying that it is Cates fault that Chase Dunn will be better, don't know where you got that from. All I am saying is that Wilson hasn't put up the numbers in any year of basketball playing in his life that Dunn is putting up now, as a freshman. There should not be a question as to whether or not Dunn will live up to it, if he has the drive, and I know he does, the question is when will he live up to it. Like I said Wilson can play D, and handle the ball decently, but the difference between Wilson and Chase is that Chase is going to put up alot of points. I look forward to the game at Celina Thursday night, and good luck to both teams, but still say LA by 5 possibly more, depending on how well they gaurd Clays gaurds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCSportsFan Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 For all you people that think this young freshman is better than Wilson Cates, thats just plain crazy. Weaknesses will be exposed and if #33 averages over 20 a game against Cates who is going to stop him without Superman there? If Celina goes man and i'm sure they will Dunn will see some defense that he hasn't seen yet. I'm actually not even worried about him, its the other seasoned vets that LA has that is more of a concern. This same team beat this same LA team last year at Celina if you remember correctly and i don't see anything changing this year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Play 4 Fun Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Chase Dunn is short and harmless right. I mean that's what all the other teams have thought I'm sure and oh yeah I almost forgot. He's a FRESHMAN. But, then again there is this possibly eye opening revolution, he's been the leading scorer in all of LA's games so far this season, and I hope you're not saying that Clay plays better Defense than Siegel, which may be possible *I haven't seen Siegel play* but they are rated really good, and he dunn awesome against them. Anyways, good luck to both teams in this game, as it will be a barn burner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg05 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 I might be and idiot or a genious,but I think you are crazy one of the main reason we even stayed close to Cookeville and Sparta was Wilson Cates.Yes ,Chase Dunn may be better than Cates by the time he is a senoir .Cates is one of the best point guards in this state,and yeah, this does sound like i am another on the bandwagon ,but i am not.I just think this is someone talking not knowing what they are aguing about.You need to come to more games is all I am saying.After he's won state,hopefully. Trust me, I have more knowledge of basketball than you could ever dream of having. If you think Cates is one of the best point guards in the state then you don't know what you're talking about. When I played high school ball, I had the same attributes Wilson has, and I wasn't one of the best wing men in the state. I was decent but nothin special. The same goes for Cates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Play 4 Fun Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 None of the teams LA has played so far has been worried about Chase Dunn. He seemed to have done fine against them, and if Clay doesn't worry about him any, then he may have another career night against them. Then again, he may be terrible against Clay, i mean with that awesome defense like LA hasn't seen this year. (Siegel's defense was terrible i'm sure, i mean it usually is on a very high rated AAA school.) But, to this "same" La team they had last year, um...what about Matt Reeder, Brad West, Wesley Pucket, I remember all of them starting, but I don't remember seeing them out there against Pickett County the other night. Oh, that's right they graduated, so if half the team graduated how do they have the "same" team. I'm sure Clay will have the "same" team next year after Casey, Dustin, Jon, Tyler, Saylor, Bobby, Sean, etc graduate. They'll look exactly the same, huh. Good luck to both teams at Celina Thurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg05 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 For all you people that think this young freshman is better than Wilson Cates, thats just plain crazy. Weaknesses will be exposed and if #33 averages over 20 a game against Cates who is going to stop him without Superman there? If Celina goes man and i'm sure they will Dunn will see some defense that he hasn't seen yet. I'm actually not even worried about him, its the other seasoned vets that LA has that is more of a concern. This same team beat this same LA team last year at Celina if you remember correctly and i don't see anything changing this year! I hope you're right about that defense, because if Clay plays lazy on that press in this game like they did against Gville, they'll be gettin scored on so fast they won't know what happened. We played the zones decent but that press was pathetic. Gotta cut off those sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy1 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Cates is not a basketball player. what planet are u from? he can almost single-handedly break a press and no he will not average 20 a game because he dishes off a lot more than he shoots. he may not be the best pure shooter ever, but he can do everything else extremely well. u r right about one thing though, he is one heck of a football player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy1 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 First of all, LOL I have seen wilson play. Just to clear that up LOL. He is not that great at basketball. He is AWESOME at football, but basketball I'd say the city of Livingston is the one jumping the gun and most everyone in LA country thinks he's God. Sorry to dissappoint but he's not. Who's jumping the gun with Chase Dunn, he is a good player, and in a couple of years will be better at basketball than Cates has ever thought about being. Wilson may be a natural leader and all that stuff, but he can't score points, he can play D and he's a fair ball handler, but he will never score. But, like I said everyone from Livingston is extremely biased and thinks he's God at whatever he does. Anyways LA wins in a close one by 5 Thursday night IN Celina. Good Luck to both teams. my response was to you play 4 fun. We don't think he is God, but I believe in giving credit where it it due. Cates is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy1 Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 For all you people that think this young freshman is better than Wilson Cates, thats just plain crazy. Weaknesses will be exposed and if #33 averages over 20 a game against Cates who is going to stop him without Superman there? If Celina goes man and i'm sure they will Dunn will see some defense that he hasn't seen yet. I'm actually not even worried about him, its the other seasoned vets that LA has that is more of a concern. This same team beat this same LA team last year at Celina if you remember correctly and i don't see anything changing this year! I really don't see the need in LA even showing up even when they get Superman back. If Superman can't hold the real superman #33 less than 20 points, I'd say he will score at least 35 thursday night. cats, good luck but you don't stand much of a chance having to play the real Superman without the bogus Superman. maybe we can stay within 20 at least i hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The General Posted November 30, 2005 Report Share Posted November 30, 2005 Once again... The Cats will win by atleast 10. Mark my words. #33 from Celina may have a big game, but in basketball its hard for one man to win the game by his self. If they don't win by 10+ I will apologize to the whole board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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