larry Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 You mean that under the merit system, where everything is equal, we don't get one of those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbg Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) Is there any chance that the decision making folks over on Lebanon Road in Hermitage will take a close look at the Merit System? IMO, we will not see the TSSAA do anything until after the BA case is settled. I can't beleive that the TSSAA is going to continue the fight after they lost in the US Supreme Court, but I guess they had no choice but to spend some more the the tax payers money. The schools need to ban together and pass a rule that the Board of Control has to pay for any financial losses due to legal bills out of their personal checking & savings accounts. The Board of Control should spend the money as if it were their own dollars and sometimes we all must cut bait and get on with our life. Edited November 28, 2006 by cbg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian Posted June 29, 2007 Report Share Posted June 29, 2007 (edited) The merit system was mentioned, I looked at the Moore ratings from last season and put these together and how they might start in a 5 and 4 class system. This is before any adjustments on how low a large school can drop, etc. Five Classes, about 65 in a class 5A 1-Brentwood Academy 2-Maryville 3-Alcoa 4-McCallie 5-Riverdale 6-Fulton 7-Smyrna 8-Hillsboro 9-Red Bank 10-Ooltewah 11-Baylor 12-Goodpasture 13-Dobyns-Bennett 14-Lipscomb 15-Knoxville Catholic 16-CPA 17-CBHS 18-Farragut 19-Morristown West 20-Ravenwood 21-Sevier County 22-White Station 23-Gallatin 24-Knoxville West 25-Austin East 26-Webb 27-MUS 28-Franklin 29-Dickson County 30-Whitehaven 31-ECS 32-Maplewood 33-Crockett County 34-McMinn County 35-Wooddale 36-Germantown 37-Melrose 38-William Blount 39-Oak Ridge 40-JCS 41-Ridgeway 42-PJPII 43-Bearden 44-Knoxville Central 45-Pearl-Cohn 46-Bolton 47-Ryan 48-Rhea County 49-Henry County 50-Brentwood High School 51-Jackson SS 52-Lavergne 53-Hunter's Lane 54-Fairley 55-Antioch 56-Milan 57-MBA 58-Independence 59-Hendersonville 60-Springfield 61-Colllierville 62-Sullivan South 63-Camden 64-Giles County 65-FCS 4A 66-Houston 67-Mt Juliet 68-Sweetwater 69-Munford 70-Tennessee 71-Mtown East 72-Smith County 73-Station Camp 74-Millington 75-Lincoln County 76-Lebanon 77-Powell 78-Dyersburg 79-Knoxville Halls 80-Covington 81-McGavock 82-Clarksville 83-Science Hill 84-Oakland 85-Whites Creek 86-Nashville Overton 87-Cleveland 88-Tullahoma 89-Jo Byrns 90-Loudon 91-Humboldt 92-Haywood County 93-Memphis East 94-Hardin County 95-Brainerd 96-Huntingdon 97-Sycamore 98-Cheatham County 99-Peabody 100-Carter 101-Fairview 102-Cordova 103-Sheffield 104-Cookeville 105-Gordonsville 106-Central Merry 107-Westview 108-Boyd-Buchanan 109-White County 110-Notre Dame 111-Lewis County 112-Howard 113-Coffee County 114-Johnson County 115-Mitchell 116-Tyner 117-Siegel 118-Davidson Academy 119-Obion County 120-Kingston 121-Kenwood 122-Ripley 123-Stratford 124-Brighton 125-Hampton 126-Meigs County 127-Anderson County 128-Polk County 129-Hixson 130-White House 3A 131-Beech 132-Seymour 133-Briarcrest 134-DCA 135-Westmoreland 136-Spring Hill 137-South Doyle 138-York Institute 139-McKenzie 140-Lenoir City 141-Wilson Central 142-St George's 143-Gatlinburg Pittman 144-BGA 145-Karns 146-CAK 147-Jefferson County 148-Soddy-Daisy 149-Mt Pleasant 150-Trezevant 151-Trousdale 152-Fayette Academy 153-Macon 154-Rossview 155-Hamilton 156-Harding Academy 157-Blackman 158-Jackson NS 159-Bolivar 160-Rockwood 161-Bradley Central 162-Greenbriar 163-Coalfield 164-Collinwood 165-Elizabethton 166-Warren County 167-Volunteer 168-Kingsbury 169-Daniel Boone 170-Franklin County 171-Fayette-Ware 172-South Pittsburg 173-Dresden 174-Centennial 175-Ensworth 176-Memphis Central 177-Craigmont 178-Raleigh-Egypt 179-BTW 180-Temple 181-Heritage 182-Lawrence County 183-Lale County 184-Liberty 185-Clinton 186-Trinity 187-Cherokee 188-Chattanooga Central 189-Dyer County 190-Creekwood 191-St Benedict 192-Columbia 193-Greenville 194-East Ridge 195-Sullivan East 2A 196-Bartlett 197-McNairy Central 198-Ezell-Harding 199-South Greene 200-Campbell County 201-GW Carver 202-Clarksville NE 203-Hickman County 204-Midway 205-Rutledge 206-Richland 207-Clairborne 208-David Crockett 209-Cascade 210-Wayne County 211-Lexington 212-East Robertson 213-Memphis Overton 214-SBEC 215-Waverly 216-Clarksville NW 217-Walker Valley 218-Page 219-Forrest 220-Livingston Academy 221-Hillwood 222-Harriman 223-Sullivan North 224-Scott County 225-Bishop Byrne 226-Glencliff 227-Bledsoe County 228-Marshall County 229-Sullivan Central 230-USJ 231-Union City 232-Unicoi 233-Portland 234-Upperman 235-Adamsvllle 236-McEwen 237-White House Heritage 238-Watertown 239-Oneida 240-Hillcrest 241-Cocke County 242-Bruceton 243-Houston County 244-Columbia Academy 245-Westwood 246-Perry County 247-Stone 248-Huntland 249-Oliver Springs 250-Sequoyah 251-Silverdale Academy 252-Gibson County 253-Lookout Valley 254-Tellico Plains 255-Kirby 256-Monterey 257-McMinn Central 258-Marion County 259-Sunbright 260-Gibbs 1A 261-Shelbyville 262-Cumberland County 263-Grundy 264-Frayser 265-DeKalb County 266-Montgomery Central 267-Rossville Christian 268-Moore County 269-Harpeth 270-Cosby 271-Riverside 272-Wartburg 273-Unaka 274-Happy Valley 275-Memphis SS 276-Treadwell 277-Clarksville Academy 278-FRA 279-Eagleville 280-West Carroll 281-Union County 282-Arlington 283-Loretto 284-Manassas 285-Chester County 286-Sequatchie 287-Cumberland Gap 288-Memphis NS 289-Jackson County 290-Whitwell 291-Greenback 292-Stewart County 293-FACS 294-Oakhaven 295-Pigeon Forge 296-Halls 297-Greenfield 298-MTCS 299-Nashville Christian 300-Chattanooga Grace 301-Cannon 302-Rosemark 303-Cloudland 304-Clay County 305-Gleason 306-Memphis WS 307-Copper Basin 308-Community 309-Middleton 310-Knoxville Grace 311-King's Academy 312-Chuckey-Doak 313-Cornersville 314-Jellico 315-North Greene 316-West Greene 317-South Fulton 318-Oakdale 319-David Brainerd 320-Zion Christian 321-SAS 322-Mt Juliet Christian 323-Red Boiling Springs Four classes, about 81 in each class 4A 1-Brentwood Academy 2-Maryville 3-Alcoa 4-McCallie 5-Riverdale 6-Fulton 7-Smyrna 8-Hillsboro 9-Red Bank 10-Ooltewah 11-Baylor 12-Goodpasture 13-Dobyns-Bennett 14-Lipscomb 15-Knoxville Catholic 16-CPA 17-CBHS 18-Farragut 19-Morristown West 20-Ravenwood 21-Sevier County 22-White Station 23-Gallatin 24-Knoxville West 25-Austin East 26-Webb 27-MUS 28-Franklin 29-Dickson County 30-Whitehaven 31-ECS 32-Maplewood 33-Crockett County 34-McMinn County 35-Wooddale 36-Germantown 37-Melrose 38-William Blount 39-Oak Ridge 40-JCS 41-Ridgeway 42-PJPII 43-Bearden 44-Knoxville Central 45-Pearl-Cohn 46-Bolton 47-Ryan 48-Rhea County 49-Henry County 50-Brentwood High School 51-Jackson SS 52-Lavergne 53-Hunter's Lane 54-Fairley 55-Antioch 56-Milan 57-MBA 58-Independence 59-Hendersonville 60-Springfield 61-Colllierville 62-Sullivan South 63-Camden 64-Giles County 65-FCS 66-Houston 67-Mt Juliet 68-Sweetwater 69-Munford 70-Tennessee 71-Mtown East 72-Smith County 73-Station Camp 74-Millington 75-Lincoln County 76-Lebanon 77-Powell 78-Dyersburg 79-Knoxville Halls 80-Covington 81-McGavock 3A 82-Clarksville 83-Science Hill 84-Oakland 85-Whites Creek 86-Nashville Overton 87-Cleveland 88-Tullahoma 89-Jo Byrns 90-Loudon 91-Humboldt 92-Haywood County 93-Memphis East 94-Hardin County 95-Brainerd 96-Huntingdon 97-Sycamore 98-Cheatham County 99-Peabody 100-Carter 101-Fairview 102-Cordova 103-Sheffield 104-Cookeville 105-Gordonsville 106-Central Merry 107-Westview 108-Boyd-Buchanan 109-White County 110-Notre Dame 111-Lewis County 112-Howard 113-Coffee County 114-Johnson County 115-Mitchell 116-Tyner 117-Siegel 118-Davidson Academy 119-Obion County 120-Kingston 121-Kenwood 122-Ripley 123-Stratford 124-Brighton 125-Hampton 126-Meigs County 127-Anderson County 128-Polk County 129-Hixson 130-White House 131-Beech 132-Seymour 133-Briarcrest 134-DCA 135-Westmoreland 136-Spring Hill 137-South Doyle 138-York Institute 139-McKenzie 140-Lenoir City 141-Wilson Central 142-St George's 143-Gatlinburg Pittman 144-BGA 145-Karns 146-CAK 147-Jefferson County 148-Soddy-Daisy 149-Mt Pleasant 150-Trezevant 151-Trousdale 152-Fayette Academy 153-Macon 154-Rossview 155-Hamilton 156-Harding Academy 157-Blackman 158-Jackson NS 159-Bolivar 160-Rockwood 161-Bradley Central 162-Greenbriar 2A 163-Coalfield 164-Collinwood 165-Elizabethton 166-Warren County 167-Volunteer 168-Kingsbury 169-Daniel Boone 170-Franklin County 171-Fayette-Ware 172-South Pittsburg 173-Dresden 174-Centennial 175-Ensworth 176-Memphis Central 177-Craigmont 178-Raleigh-Egypt 179-BTW 180-Temple 181-Heritage 182-Lawrence County 183-Lale County 184-Liberty 185-Clinton 186-Trinity 187-Cherokee 188-Chattanooga Central 189-Dyer County 190-Creekwood 191-St Benedict 192-Columbia 193-Greenville 194-East Ridge 195-Sullivan East 196-Bartlett 197-McNairy Central 198-Ezell-Harding 199-South Greene 200-Campbell County 201-GW Carver 202-Clarksville NE 203-Hickman County 204-Midway 205-Rutledge 206-Richland 207-Clairborne 208-David Crockett 209-Cascade 210-Wayne County 211-Lexington 212-East Robertson 213-Memphis Overton 214-SBEC 215-Waverly 216-Clarksville NW 217-Walker Valley 218-Page 219-Forrest 220-Livingston Academy 221-Hillwood 222-Harriman 223-Sullivan North 224-Scott County 225-Bishop Byrne 226-Glencliff 227-Bledsoe County 228-Marshall County 229-Sullivan Central 230-USJ 231-Union City 232-Unicoi 233-Portland 234-Upperman 235-Adamsvllle 236-McEwen 237-White House Heritage 238-Watertown 239-Oneida 240-Hillcrest 241-Cocke County 242-Bruceton 243-Houston County 1A 244-Columbia Academy 245-Westwood 246-Perry County 247-Stone 248-Huntland 249-Oliver Springs 250-Sequoyah 251-Silverdale Academy 252-Gibson County 253-Lookout Valley 254-Tellico Plains 255-Kirby 256-Monterey 257-McMinn Central 258-Marion County 259-Sunbright 260-Gibbs 261-Shelbyville 262-Cumberland County 263-Grundy 264-Frayser 265-DeKalb County 266-Montgomery Central 267-Rossville Christian 268-Moore County 269-Harpeth 270-Cosby 271-Riverside 272-Wartburg 273-Unaka 274-Happy Valley 275-Memphis SS 276-Treadwell 277-Clarksville Academy 278-FRA 279-Eagleville 280-West Carroll 281-Union County 282-Arlington 283-Loretto 284-Manassas 285-Chester County 286-Sequatchie 287-Cumberland Gap 288-Memphis NS 289-Jackson County 290-Whitwell 291-Greenback 292-Stewart County 293-FACS 294-Oakhaven 295-Pigeon Forge 296-Halls 297-Greenfield 298-MTCS 299-Nashville Christian 300-Chattanooga Grace 301-Cannon 302-Rosemark 303-Cloudland 304-Clay County 305-Gleason 306-Memphis WS 307-Copper Basin 308-Community 309-Middleton 310-Knoxville Grace 311-King's Academy 312-Chuckey-Doak 313-Cornersville 314-Jellico 315-North Greene 316-West Greene 317-South Fulton 318-Oakdale 319-David Brainerd 320-Zion Christian 321-SAS 322-Mt Juliet Christian 323-Red Boiling Springs They could keep track of school populations to help classify new schools or new programs, put them where they'd be if they were still based on populations. This sounds okay, but like I've said before, the very first year a Brentwood Academy won the top class, you'd go back to the same old conversations. This is for one season of results, maybe to be more accurate at the start they could go with at least four or five seasons of results. The numbers are available to do so. I'd want to see it changed every two seasons, instead of four. Maybe the top 20 percent and bottom 20 percent could swap each two seasons. If there were still regions, it might go like this around Chattanooga: 5A: McCallie Red Bank Ooltewah Baylor McMinn County Rhea County 4A Cleveland Brainerd Boyd-Buchanan Notre Dame Howard Tyner Meigs County Polk County Hixson 3A Soddy-Daisy Bradley Central South Pittsburg Temple Chattanooga Central East Ridge 2A Walker Valley Bledsoe County Stone Silverdale Academy Lookout Valley Tellico Plains McMinn Central Marion County 1A Cumberland County Grundy Sequatchie Whitwell Chattanooga Grace Copper Basin David Brainerd Edited June 30, 2007 by Indian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBandJ Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 (edited) I love that breakdown! The matchups alone in each class would be classics. Are there any other states where a merit system is in place? Edited June 30, 2007 by PBandJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian Posted June 30, 2007 Report Share Posted June 30, 2007 Here is what I came up with for regions in 5A. I had to send some of the Knoxville schools east to help even things out. A couple of the regions just had six teams, that caused problems with 12 in Memphis, maybe they could be in two conferences with six each, begin at week 0, complete five conference games in week 9 or sooner, and have #1 vs #1 and #2 vs #2 in week 10 to determine four playoff spots. There was not much that could be done with Giles County, if they played 5A they'd have a major gas bill. I kept Pearl-Cohn with rivals Hunter's Lane and Maplewood, they and Ryan could have flipped around. Barring upsets, which would always happen, the semfinals might be Maryville-Brentwood Academy, Goodpasture-Hillsboro. It's all speculation, especially since there's not even a merit system but it's fun to see how it would possibly be. Region 1: 6-Fulton, 13-Dobyns-Bennett, 19-Morristown West, 21-Sevier County, 24-Knoxville West, 25-Austin East, 44-Knoxville Central , 62-Sullivan South Region 2: 2-Maryville, 3-Alcoa, 15-Knoxville Catholic, 18-Farragut, 26-Webb, 38-William Blount, 39-Oak Ridge, 43-Bearden Region 3: 4-McCallie, 9-Red Bank, 10-Ooltewah, 11-Baylor, 34-McMinn County, 48-Rhea County Region 4: 1-Brentwood Academy, 5-Riverdale, 7-Smyrna, 20-Ravenwood, 28-Franklin, 50-Brentwood High School, , 58-Independence, 64-Giles County, 65-FCS Region 5: 12-Goodpasture 23-Gallatin 32-Maplewood 42-PJPII 45-Pearl-Cohn 53-Hunter's Lane 60-Springfield 59-Hendersonville Region 6: 8-Hillsboro 14-Lipscomb 16-CPA 29-Dickson County 47-Ryan 52-Lavergne 55-Antioch 57-MBA Region 7: 33-Crockett County 40-JCS 49-Henry County 51-Jackson SS 56-Milan 63-Camden Region 8: 17-CBHS, 22-White Station, 27-MUS, 30-Whitehaven, 31-ECS 35-Wooddale, 36-Germantown, 37-Melrose, 41-Ridgeway, 46-Bolton, 54-Fairley 61-Colllierville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverpie Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 I love that breakdown! The matchups alone in each class would be classics. Are there any other states where a merit system is in place? Rhode Island. Also, the cities of New York and Chicago in at least some sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBandJ Posted July 1, 2007 Report Share Posted July 1, 2007 Rhode Island. Also, the cities of New York and Chicago in at least some sports. That's very interesting. I wonder how well it works and what some of the "merit" rules are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazarus Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 "That's very interesting. I wonder how well it works ..." i dont know about those high school examples, but i know of merit systems in use by other sports organizations, and they seem to work quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBandJ Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 "That's very interesting. I wonder how well it works ..." i dont know about those high school examples, but i know of merit systems in use by other sports organizations, and they seem to work quite well. Yes, I follow international soccer fairly closely and their merit systems have been in place and worked for quite some time - roughly a century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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