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QUOTE(sum1uno @ Jan 21 2007 - 10:02 PM) 826340521[/snapback]

All you'll end up with is a parking lot full of students.......

 

 

 

but then, at least, they will be unified..

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Back to the original question, and here's the "correct" answer with rule and case book references.

 

Slapping the backboard can NOT be 'basket interference' (Rule 4-6) or 'goaltending' (Rule 4-22) simply by their definitions......

Neither rule addresses the 'backboard'......

 

However, slapping or illegally contacting the backboard can be penalized according to Rule 10-3-5-a and Rule 10-3-5-b. Rule 10-3-5-a and b says, "PLAYER TECHNICAL..... A player shall not illegally contact the backboard/ring by: (a.) Placing a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage. (b.) Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket."

 

Obviously, two words in Rule 10-3-5-a and b creates a nuisance to spectators and officials in my opinion. The words 'advantage' and 'intentionally' are subjective, and obviously relies on the 'judgement' of the officials. As I understand, if there is a 'legitimate' attempt to block a shot, the contact should be ignored, unless the contact is excessive, or is an attempt to draw attention, or is a means of 'venting' frustration. But there has to be some type of determination as to what is 'legitimate'..... I guess that depends on the skill level of the player(s), and/or possible unsporting incidences from earlier in the game.......

 

This situation is covered in the case book (Play 10.3.5).

 

Additionally, you can NOT 'award' a basket and issue a technical foul for slapping the backboard as stated earlier in this thread. It is not supported by rule.

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QUOTE(heyitsme @ Jan 22 2007 - 12:29 PM) 826341033[/snapback]

Back to the original question, and here's the "correct" answer with rule and case book references.

 

Slapping the backboard can NOT be 'basket interference' (Rule 4-6) or 'goaltending' (Rule 4-22) simply by their definitions......

Neither rule addresses the 'backboard'......

 

However, slapping or illegally contacting the backboard can be penalized according to Rule 10-3-5-a and Rule 10-3-5-b. Rule 10-3-5-a and b says, "PLAYER TECHNICAL..... A player shall not illegally contact the backboard/ring by: (a.) Placing a hand on the backboard or ring to gain an advantage. (b.) Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket."

 

Obviously, two words in Rule 10-3-5-a and b creates a nuisance to spectators and officials in my opinion. The words 'advantage' and 'intentionally' are subjective, and obviously relies on the 'judgement' of the officials. As I understand, if there is a 'legitimate' attempt to block a shot, the contact should be ignored, unless the contact is excessive, or is an attempt to draw attention, or is a means of 'venting' frustration. But there has to be some type of determination as to what is 'legitimate'..... I guess that depends on the skill level of the player(s), and/or possible unsporting incidences from earlier in the game.......

 

This situation is covered in the case book (Play 10.3.5).

 

Additionally, you can NOT 'award' a basket and issue a technical foul for slapping the backboard as stated earlier in this thread. It is not supported by rule.

 

 

 

I'll defer to you on the "goaltending" and/or "basket interference" heyitsme. Common sense would say that if the ball was on the "ring" and the slapping of the backboard caused it to come off of the "ring", that could constitute interference and give the offcials the right to "count the basket." But hey, you've got the rule book ... I don't.

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Gov Man and Heyitsme are correct about slapping the backboard. Had one several weeks ago where a player shot a layup and another player slapped the backboard on the other side of the rim. Not anywhere near the player or the ball. If he would have made any attempt for the ball, especially on the shooter's side of the rim, nothing would have been called.

 

Concerning the 'Hanging on the rim', here it is summed up. Nobody is allowed to grasp or hang on the rim unless you are preventing possible injury.

An example of this is a player who stays on the rim because another player is under him.

Hope this clears this up!

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QUOTE(OakIand @ Jan 22 2007 - 06:56 PM) 826341531[/snapback]

Maybe you should tell that to Coach Harris. How many technicals did siegel have last year?

 

 

 

Why dont you tell him?

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QUOTE(OakIand @ Jan 22 2007 - 07:20 PM) 826341577[/snapback]

Probably because I would never set foot in that evil school unless it is a game where oakland is involved.

 

 

 

K. Go Pats.

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I always thought slapping the glass was only a T in middle school. Otherwise known as Backboard Checking. However in High School I, or anyone else ive played alongside or against has never been T'ed up for doing it. We even do it in warm-ups right on front of the ref's. Hanging on the rim, however definitly is a techinical.

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QUOTE(VolunteerFalcon12 @ Jan 23 2007 - 05:32 PM) 826342773[/snapback]

I always thought slapping the glass was only a T in middle school. Otherwise known as Backboard Checking. However in High School I, or anyone else ive played alongside or against has never been T'ed up for doing it. We even do it in warm-ups right on front of the ref's. Hanging on the rim, however definitly is a techinical.

 

 

I agree with you I havent seen one person get called for it this year or last, But I do remmember they use to call it all the time,but it has happen alot in game this year and I havent seen one t go up

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