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[MPHSTIGERS87]

QUOTE(supersteve17 @ Mar 26 2007 - 07:08 PM) 826423304[/snapback]That is actually a pretty good question, MPHSTIGERS87. Let me take the bait! A wise old fisherman once told me that "the fish bite every day, so I try to go early and stay late!" The answer to your question is whichever fisherman is the best equipped, the most skilled, the most prepared and the most persistent. A little luck also goes a long way. BTW, the biggest catch could possibly come from any one of the ponds, even the smallest pond.

 

Now in your analogy, who is the fisherman?

 

 

 

QUOTE(FCSprideatUT @ Mar 26 2007 - 08:13 PM) 826423356[/snapback]Let me just add a little bit to your story so that it better reflects how the sittuation is.

 

You still have 9 ponds withy 1000 fish in each. And 1 pond with 1000 fish in it.

 

Assume we are net fishing and putting the fish into a tank. (much like students you agree)

 

Now, fisherman number 1 can only fish at the 1 pond. But, all the fish that are in this particular pond have to be captured by this fisherman because it is the law. Any fish not wishing to be caught will have to move to another pond. But for the fish that are caught, the fishermen is given fish food to feed them with in his fish tank so that they do not get hungry.

 

Now fisherman number 9 can fish at all 9 ponds. But, the fish do not have to come to his net if they do not want to. And if they do choose to go to his net and into his private tank, then they will have to give up a portion of their hard earned food in order to keep the private tank running smoothly with clean water and such.

 

They are very different but as you can see they both have pro's and cons......Anything you could possibly say (using this analogy) would pretty much have to be something along the lines of "the private fisher can select which fish he wants to keep and throw back, and he can give extra food to the good strong fish". Which would insinuate that all private fishers must recruit.

 

 

 

QUOTE(tnsddeveloper @ Mar 26 2007 - 09:36 PM) 826423467[/snapback]I'll take a stab.

 

Fisherman #2 has a pond with 1,000 fish. Fisherman #2 knows that he doesn't have to try ... 99% of the 1,000 fish will be jumping into his boat. He doesn't even have to cast his line.

 

Fisherman #1 has 9 ponds with 1,000 fish each. The fish all know that they don't have to be "caught" by this fisherman. In fact, only certain fish can even qualify to be caught by this fisherman (ability to pay tuition and or entrance exam requirements). On top of that, many choose to stay status quo and just go with Fisherman #2 cause that is free and easy. So in fact, the 9 "pools" are in fact NOT as deep as one would think.

 

Hmmm ... that muddies the water a little bit doesn't it. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

 

 

All those were great, I got a good laugh.

[MPHSTIGERS87]

What yall seem not to understand what I stated "over time" which fisherman gets the most fish. If you are saying fisherman #2 has just as good as chance at 1000 fish as fisherman #1 with 9000 over 9 ponds then yall different math classes in your private schools.

[VolunteerGeneral]

QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Mar 27 2007 - 12:13 AM) 826423629[/snapback]What yall seem not to understand what I stated "over time" which fisherman gets the most fish. If you are saying fisherman #2 has just as good as chance at 1000 fish as fisherman #1 with 9000 over 9 ponds then yall different math classes in your private schools.

 

 

Did you even read my post? Did you even understand it? Do I need to explain it to you again?

[MPHSTIGERS87]

QUOTE(VolunteerGeneral @ Mar 26 2007 - 11:18 PM) 826423574[/snapback]Actually MPHS this is a bad analogy and shows why you don`t understand what you are talking about. You are ASSUMING that fisherman 1 gets to keep any fish he catches. While Fisherman 2 gets to keep all the fish he catches in his pond, The majority of the fish in all of fisherman 1`s ponds are not eligible for keeping. So yeah...fisherman 1 may have more ponds to fish out of, but most of the fish in his ponds are out of season.

 

If you don`t understand that then let me know. I`ll explain it to you in different terms (again)

 

 

First of all read, the analogy again. Fisherman #2 doesnt get to keep all the fish in his pond, he can only fish out of one fishing hole "his zone". Where as fisherman 1 can fish anywhere in all 9 ponds whenever he wants. I agree not all fish are eligible, but "over time" (here let me say it again) "over time" the ponds will be more productive for fishermwn 1 because of the mass area he can fish in. I dont know how to make that any clearer, but if you need for me to explain it again for ya I will.

[tnsddeveloper]

QUOTE(VolunteerGeneral @ Mar 27 2007 - 06:19 AM) 826423656[/snapback]Did you even read my post? Did you even understand it? Do I need to explain it to you again?

 

Alas, you are barking up a dead tree. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

 

Just count your lucky stars that your youngin's have great schools in JCM and Liberty to attend.

[tnsddeveloper]

QUOTE(P.A.Lin-Z @ Mar 28 2007 - 08:03 PM) 826425228[/snapback]I kinda thought I'd have an answer by now......

 

Did you ask a question?

[P.A.Lin-Z]

QUOTE(tnsddeveloper @ Mar 28 2007 - 08:32 PM) 826425260[/snapback]Did you ask a question?

 

Nah....just talkin' to myself. /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif" />

I just stepped into some stuff I didn't have any business having an opinion on. /wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=";)" border="0" alt="wink.gif" />

[Baldcoach]

QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Mar 27 2007 - 12:24 PM) 826423941[/snapback]First of all read, the analogy again. Fisherman #2 doesnt get to keep all the fish in his pond, he can only fish out of one fishing hole "his zone". Where as fisherman 1 can fish anywhere in all 9 ponds whenever he wants. I agree not all fish are eligible, but "over time" (here let me say it again) "over time" the ponds will be more productive for fishermwn 1 because of the mass area he can fish in. I dont know how to make that any clearer, but if you need for me to explain it again for ya I will.

 

 

 

I read the analogy again. I don't think time does anything but help the fisherman who can only fish one pond build his lead over the poor guy fishing in them all...could you explain how "over time" makes a difference here?

[MPHSTIGERS87]

QUOTE(Baldcoach @ Mar 28 2007 - 11:06 PM) 826425480[/snapback]I read the analogy again. I don't think time does anything but help the fisherman who can only fish one pond build his lead over the poor guy fishing in them all...could you explain how "over time" makes a difference here?

 

 

Over time? You are saying 1 fisherman fishingin one pond with 1000 fish will last as long as 1 fisherman fishing in 9 ponds with 1000 fish in each. OK. Whatever works for you. I'll take the 9000 fish over 1000 fish any day. Look if I told you the sky was blue you would say it was green so lets just end this Gees. I wont agree with you and you wont agree with me.

[tnsddeveloper]

QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Mar 29 2007 - 07:45 AM) 826425562[/snapback]Over time? You are saying 1 fisherman fishingin one pond with 1000 fish will last as long as 1 fisherman fishing in 9 ponds with 1000 fish in each. OK. Whatever works for you. I'll take the 9000 fish over 1000 fish any day. Look if I told you the sky was blue you would say it was green so lets just end this Gees. I wont agree with you and you wont agree with me.

 

Uh, the fisherman with 1 pond doesn't even have to try ... 99% of the fish literally JUMP into the boat. No effort. There is not hinderance at all.

[Baldcoach]

QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Mar 29 2007 - 08:45 AM) 826425562[/snapback]Over time? You are saying 1 fisherman fishingin one pond with 1000 fish will last as long as 1 fisherman fishing in 9 ponds with 1000 fish in each. OK. Whatever works for you. I'll take the 9000 fish over 1000 fish any day. Look if I told you the sky was blue you would say it was green so lets just end this Gees. I wont agree with you and you wont agree with me.

 

 

 

MP,

 

2 things...

 

1) I wasn't saying anything, I was asking you for an explanation about how over time gives the fisherman who has a broad zone an advantage...

 

2) Anyone takes 9000 fish over 1000 fish. What you fail to realize is that while Fisherman 1 gets about 1000 out of 1000 from his pond, Fisherman 2 only gets a small percentage from each of his 9...the other fish can't afford him or get caught by the single pond fishermen fishing in them (forgot about those other guys, didn't you?).

 

Thus, in reality, the poor guy who fishes in 9 ponds can only catch a few fish to keep in each one of them...the majority of fish are already caught/don't qualify for him. He, in fact, gets further and further behind the single pond fishers simply because he is fishing for so few fish in each and he has to spend time changing ponds while Fisherman one sits at his one pond and reels them all in.

 

So, you see, it isn't a question of 9000 vs 1000. It all goes back to which puddle has the most water, a 1 foot by 2foot by 50 foot deep puddle or a 10 foot by 10 foot by 1 foot deep puddle. Since you won't answer I will...they have the same amount of water, one just looks bigger to the casual observer. Your 9 pond fisherman has no more fish available to him than the single pond fisherman because he can only get a few from each pond...in fact, that is why he HAD to fish nine ponds to start with. But it does look like he has more available fish until you think about it a bit.

[supersteve17]

I'm hungry! Anybody want to go to Hagy's near Savannah?