Do what you have to?

[2blLeg]

I found this on another message board, and found it very interesting. The words below, are what that user posted (not my words). But if you look at the kid after the match is stopped, and then at the end of this video, WOW, did I miss something? gotta love some coaches.

 

 

Fort Mill, ranked seventh in the state, fell 34-30 to No. 2 ranked Rock Hill High in the third round of the state playoffs on a controversial finish that had the referees being escorted out of Fort Mill High by security as the Yellow Jackets fans went ballistic.

 

Fort Mill's Austin King dominates Rock Hill's Austin Threatt through the first period of their match only to get called for an illegal headlock, causing King to lose by disqualification and giving Rock Hill the win by the score of 30-34.

 

With Fort Mill up 30-28 in the final match of the night and a date in the Upper State Championship on the line, the Jackets? Austin King, ranked seventh in the state at 112-pounds, was going head-to-head with Rock Hill?s Austin Threatt, who is ranked ninth.

 

King quickly took control of the match and went up 7-4 in the first 1:10 of the match. What transpired then was anything but normal.

 

King appeared to have Threatt pinned on his back in a headlock. The referee blew the whistle, stopping the clock with 42 seconds left in the first period. King let go of Threatt, got up and moved away from the Rock Hill wrestler, who drew himself up on his knees.

 

Rock Hill head coach Cain Beard came out to the center of the mat to check his wrestler as the Fort Mill High trainer came to attend to Threatt.

 

What, if anything, was said between Beard and Threatt is unclear.

 

At the same time, the referees came to the scorer?s table and talked to Fort Mill head coach Chris Brock. Beard then came to the scorer?s table a few minutes later and said his wrestler couldn?t continue. As Beard was walking to the table, Threatt got to his feet without any help and looked as if he could continue.

 

The referee then disqualified King for using an illegal headlock, thus giving Threatt the match win and Rock Hill the dual meet win.

[texas23]

Wow.

 

 

Looks like the "hurt" wrestler had moved to the center of the mat and was getting into the down position and ready to wrestle. Then it appears that the coaches got involved and found a way to win that match.

[amIaCoach]

Wow is all I can say! The referee unfortunately made the right call in the end. If an opponent is injured from an illegal hold and can not continue he wins the match. I could not tell if it was illegal or not from the camera but it looks to me as if the coach pulled a fast one here. It is sad that the officials had to be escorted out because they did the right call. If a coach says that their kid can not go the referee's hands are tied. I believe the coaches’ code of ethics is in play here.

[bbgocats]

Well, let's back up here just a minute. Does the kid not look like he's in pain? To me it does. Is the trainer out there looking at the kid? Yes. Whether or not the kid could finish is not the issue here. Take into consideration if the match continues, does the wrestler risk further injury that could possibly end their season? It's easy to say the Coach is to blame here, but the possibility does exists that the coach didn't want to risk further injury to his wrestler. I can't count how many times wrestlers go to far into a match with a minor injury that ends up becoming a major injury because they pushed too far. It's unfortunate for the kids and team to lose the match that was, however it's part of the game and the coach was well within his rights to call the match if he so chooses. Ethics... Consider all the factors before we start questioning a coaches ethics. From what I have read, it appears to me that both coaches have their team in very good position to compete with anyone. Teams and wrestlers don't accomplish those types of levels by ducking out of competition for the sake of winning. Just something to consider.

[matback]

We had a similar situation happen last year in a match although it did not effect the outcome of the duel meet. Our 160 got called for an illegal slam from a bear hug and the kid got up and started back to center and his coach could very obviously be seen telling him to stay down, then its like a light went off in this kids head and suddenly he couldn't continue. I guess one could argue that they were just using the rules to their advantage but both situations seem like chicken feces to me.

[Sommers]

Well, let's back up here just a minute. Does the kid not look like he's in pain? To me it does. Is the trainer out there looking at the kid? Yes. Whether or not the kid could finish is not the issue here. Take into consideration if the match continues, does the wrestler risk further injury that could possibly end their season? It's easy to say the Coach is to blame here, but the possibility does exists that the coach didn't want to risk further injury to his wrestler. I can't count how many times wrestlers go to far into a match with a minor injury that ends up becoming a major injury because they pushed too far. It's unfortunate for the kids and team to lose the match that was, however it's part of the game and the coach was well within his rights to call the match if he so chooses. Ethics... Consider all the factors before we start questioning a coaches ethics. From what I have read, it appears to me that both coaches have their team in very good position to compete with anyone. Teams and wrestlers don't accomplish those types of levels by ducking out of competition for the sake of winning. Just something to consider.

so true cat. As soon as the penalty point was given, it appears that this coach was in there telling, not asking and then immediately campaigning for his default points more than showing concern for his wrestler. we can't read his mind, but behavior is clear to me. The wrestler could have continued in my opinion.

[rigger101]

And the Oscar goes to..........................

[silverpie]

Here's a discussion on the matter from referees' point of view:

 

http://www.nfhs.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb. ... 7;t=000996

[Sommers]

should a rule be in place where it is the official's discretion to award a victory of 3 or 6 points BASED ON WHETHER a contestant is injured as a result of an illegal hold VS unnecessary roughness or unsportsmanlike conduct. also would it be helpful to hold the injured wrestler out one match ...again official's discretion based on abuse of this rule?

[rigger101]

Here's the larger question. What are the coaches who do this teaching the young men under their influence?

I had a coach tell me one time I should have done that to win a match but it was not in my nature and I really was injured.

I think I only saw it once watching my sons teams over the years.