Building a new football program?

[sball23]

Exactly, what is the average time it should take to build a championship high school football program from the first year of just freshmen??? I've always heard it should take 4-5 years to get the entire program rolling???ing

[Lost Old Dad]

Depends on the Coach and what kind of assistants he has. Prime example is R'dale under Rankin. Had one losing season, his FIRST. After that it was winning all the way to 4 gold balls, and a number of silver ones.

 

Editted to add the following.

 

Now look at Oakland for an example. Coach Mac came in and won a Gold Ball his first year with a team that only had about 4 wins the year before.

 

If a Coach is really good and the talent is there, the fans should see improvement in 3 years. If not then the school should look elsewhere before tenure comes into play.

Edited September 24, 2010 by Lost Old Dad

[MrDonkey]

The very FIRST thing I would do is hire Lost Old Dad!

 

He knows everything?

[eers]

The key ingredient is talent, followed by coaching, talent, support, talent, talent and talent. Another key component is whether the school district is an open district and how many of the students stay at their previous school. There are a lot of factors and they're different fo each school.

[92Dragon]

Ravenwood won the state championship their first year, but havent really done anything since.....

[1new_wildcat_fan]

Ravenwood won the state championship their first year, but havent really done anything since.....

 

Don't believe they won it their first year. Maybe their second or 3rd year. But you are right they haven't done anything since. Just like Independence.

[Lost Old Dad]

The very FIRST thing I would do is hire Lost Old Dad!

 

He knows everything?

 

Can't hire me because I LIKE being retired and have paid my dues to be able to loaf on go on vacations when I want to.

 

I do know what a Jack.......ah....Donkey is though!

[Hamburglar]

Depends on your coach and his ability to recruit. Thats what you will need to do it fast. If not it will take time to do it the right way.

[MidTennFootball]

Depends on the Coach and what kind of assistants he has. Prime example is R'dale under Rankin. Had one losing season, his FIRST. After that it was winning all the way to 4 gold balls, and a number of silver ones.

 

Editted to add the following.

 

Now look at Oakland for an example. Coach Mac came in and won a Gold Ball his first year with a team that only had about 4 wins the year before.

 

If a Coach is really good and the talent is there, the fans should see improvement in 3 years. If not then the school should look elsewhere before tenure comes into play.

 

That said, Coach Mac came into the perfect storm of circumstances: Community and Admninstrative support, talent, experience, schedule. Everything came together nicely in 2008, combined with his coaching know how, and ability to narrow the focus of his teams into a winning effort, its ended up nicely for Oakland. Oakland kind of has a thing for winning Gold Balls with coaches in the first year, 3 of the last 5 head coaches have done it, I dont know if any coach in the state can say that

[nrgrizzlies]

Short of lucking into getting a high profile impact type game-changing athlete in your zone, there really is no standard quick-fix. It took Cane Ridge 1.5 seasons to get their first win last night...btw - congrats to them.

[wave13]

The key ingredient is talent, followed by coaching, talent, support, talent, talent and talent. Another key component is whether the school district is an open district and how many of the students stay at their previous school. There are a lot of factors and they're different fo each school.

I agree that talent is a huge part of winning but I think a good detailed coaching staff makes it work...

[92Dragon]

Don't believe they won it their first year. Maybe their second or 3rd year. But you are right they haven't done anything since. Just like Independence.

You are right, it was their 3rd yr.