mikey65 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Exactly right halls4generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1979 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 (edited) Exactly right halls4generations. I am Ok with home schoolers playing for the school that they are zoned for and as for the private school issue, I think it only applies if the private school does not have the sport and the athlete cannot cross a school zone to play for another school. What i mean is a kid must live with in 20 miles of the school thay are playing for and must not cross say gibbs zone to play for Halls or centrals zone to play for Fulton. I believe that is the provision in this rule. Edited December 13, 2010 by ET1979 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warriorsman Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 It's not whether a home-schooled students should be allowed to participate in athletics, but how his/her participation will be fair to other students and other schools. Home schooled students are not held to the same standards as public school kids so academic eligiblity may come into question. They do not have to take the same standardized tests, nor are they scrutinized by the local, state, and federal govenments that our public school students. And I don't know a momma or daddy that's going to flunk their own kid. Now we have a stud tailback that can't pass Algebra and he is in jeopardy of being ineligible next season. No problem, mom will home school him this summer, get the credit, and be eligible in the fall. Now, I know home schooler within twenty miles of my school, but he's also 20 miles from five other high schools in the district. What now? Home schoolers also need to be allowed to be in the band, the drama club, the vocational education club, and all. Enforcement and fairness is the question, but there ain't many Tim Tebows out there being home schooled. IDK but wasn't Tebow a mission kid who was unable to attend public school in the states? It probably will not be a problem, but I see a lot of issues with this ruling and the adminsitration of it. I do not want to discriminate against anyone, and I'm sure parents who home school their children are doing the best for them, but our socialist public school system is based on fairness for everyone, not just a few. I'm going recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbfan1976 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 It's not whether a home-schooled students should be allowed to participate in athletics, but how his/her participation will be fair to other students and other schools. Home schooled students are not held to the same standards as public school kids so academic eligiblity may come into question. They do not have to take the same standardized tests, nor are they scrutinized by the local, state, and federal govenments that our public school students. And I don't know a momma or daddy that's going to flunk their own kid. Now we have a stud tailback that can't pass Algebra and he is in jeopardy of being ineligible next season. No problem, mom will home school him this summer, get the credit, and be eligible in the fall. Now, I know home schooler within twenty miles of my school, but he's also 20 miles from five other high schools in the district. What now? Home schoolers also need to be allowed to be in the band, the drama club, the vocational education club, and all. Enforcement and fairness is the question, but there ain't many Tim Tebows out there being home schooled. IDK but wasn't Tebow a mission kid who was unable to attend public school in the states? It probably will not be a problem, but I see a lot of issues with this ruling and the adminsitration of it. I do not want to discriminate against anyone, and I'm sure parents who home school their children are doing the best for them, but our socialist public school system is based on fairness for everyone, not just a few. I'm going recruiting. To address the issues you brought forth about academics, Home School students as defined by this rule from the TSSAA actually do have to take the same standardized tests as regular school students. These students are required to meet the same academic standards or to propose an alternate plan to the TSSAA for approval if they don't. As an educator for many years I have often been outspoken against home schools for the reasons you mentioned but I have learned that there are several different types of home school programs the ones being discussed in this rule are the ones that do require state tests. But I am with you I think a recruiting trip or two might be taking place soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey65 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) It's not whether a home-schooled students should be allowed to participate in athletics, but how his/her participation will be fair to other students and other schools. Home schooled students are not held to the same standards as public school kids so academic eligiblity may come into question. They do not have to take the same standardized tests, nor are they scrutinized by the local, state, and federal govenments that our public school students. And I don't know a momma or daddy that's going to flunk their own kid. Now we have a stud tailback that can't pass Algebra and he is in jeopardy of being ineligible next season. No problem, mom will home school him this summer, get the credit, and be eligible in the fall. Now, I know home schooler within twenty miles of my school, but he's also 20 miles from five other high schools in the district. What now? Home schoolers also need to be allowed to be in the band, the drama club, the vocational education club, and all. Enforcement and fairness is the question, but there ain't many Tim Tebows out there being home schooled. IDK but wasn't Tebow a mission kid who was unable to attend public school in the states? It probably will not be a problem, but I see a lot of issues with this ruling and the adminsitration of it. I do not want to discriminate against anyone, and I'm sure parents who home school their children are doing the best for them, but our socialist public school system is based on fairness for everyone, not just a few. I'm going recruiting. Can you honestly tell me that there are not students getting passed in public schools because they play sports? I know my grades were always better during football season. I think homeschoolers should be allowed to participate in all extracarricular activities for the schools that the parents are being taxed for. If our socialistic school system is about fairness, shouldn't every player on a team get the same amount of playing time? It's interesting to see how people from different parts of the state and country view homeschooling. Northeast Tennessee, where I'm from is very negative about it while Knox county is just the opposite. I can't think of anything negative in Texas or Florida (where we live now) that people have said to us. Except for people in the public school system that is who are brainwashed into believing that parents don't have the ability to teach thier own children. Sorry, it does not take 4 years of college to teach elementary math. I will not even mention all the other garbage that goes on in our schools and buses every day. Edited December 16, 2010 by mikey65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whyaskwhy Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 My biggest question on the decision the TSSAA passed for home school students is #6 on the list of regulations for homeschoolers to be eligible.The LEA may impose a participation fee for each athletic sport in which a home school athlete wishes to participate. Such participation fee shall not exceed three hundred dollars annually for each sport and shall be paid in full prior to the first regular season contest. A home school student participating at a private school shall be subject to full tuition and financial aid rules. I am reading it to mean that public schools cant charge in excess of $300 for a homeschool child to play on a public team per sport, but if the child attends a private school he or she must pay full tuiton. Not saying this is right or wrong, but IMO it takes private schools out of equation that are not DII and also makes the homeschool child go through all the regulations to receive financial aid to play at a DII school. I cant see any homeschool child paying full tuiton to play at a DI private school when tuiton can reach upwards of 4 or sometime 5 figures per year. It takes private schools and puts them at huge disadvantage when it comes to homeschoolers IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksgovols Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Even if Tebow was a mission kid, he still managed to participate in school sports when it mattered. I think we have a hard enough time with open zones and recruiting accusations to open it up even more with home schooled kids for all of the afore mentioned reasons. There are non TSSAA programs that afford these student athletes opportunities. Why open up this can of worms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey65 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 (edited) My biggest question on the decision the TSSAA passed for home school students is #6 on the list of regulations for homeschoolers to be eligible.The LEA may impose a participation fee for each athletic sport in which a home school athlete wishes to participate. Such participation fee shall not exceed three hundred dollars annually for each sport and shall be paid in full prior to the first regular season contest. A home school student participating at a private school shall be subject to full tuition and financial aid rules. I am reading it to mean that public schools cant charge in excess of $300 for a homeschool child to play on a public team per sport, but if the child attends a private school he or she must pay full tuiton. Not saying this is right or wrong, but IMO it takes private schools out of equation that are not DII and also makes the homeschool child go through all the regulations to receive financial aid to play at a DII school. I cant see any homeschool child paying full tuiton to play at a DI private school when tuiton can reach upwards of 4 or sometime 5 figures per year. It takes private schools and puts them at huge disadvantage when it comes to homeschoolers IMO. I do not agree with making homeschool kids pay to play, but if they do I think they should be allowed to pick any school they want to play at. Edited December 19, 2010 by mikey65 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey65 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Even if Tebow was a mission kid, he still managed to participate in school sports when it mattered. I think we have a hard enough time with open zones and recruiting accusations to open it up even more with home schooled kids for all of the afore mentioned reasons. There are non TSSAA programs that afford these student athletes opportunities. Why open up this can of worms? 99% of the accusations come from people jealous of Maryville and Alcoa. It's not hard to find out where a student lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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