Region 1 Officiating video...You make the call.

[reftn]

Awww..this has been so much fun I hate to see it end. Very cordial.

 

If the supporting parts of either wrestler is in bounds, they are considered in bounds or a supporting part of each is out of bounds they are considered out of bounds. This shows the illustration in the Rules Book.

 

http://matref0.tripod.com/Articles/NFHS_Rules_Photos.pdf

 

On your back, the shoulders/scapula are A supporting part. But so are the feet. So is the hip. Before everyone jumps on this think about it and compare it to like situations. If a kid rolls another kid in a peterson, and the other kid is completely out of bounds, but his hip is in, isnt that two? If his hip is out (with the other kid) but his feet are in, isnt that two? You have to have supporting parts to have a takedown, yes? Can it be one foot? No.

 

If he is facing the other way with his feet out of bounds, but his hip in bounds, do you have two?

 

See the diagram at the link above.

 

In the vid, the SH kid had to go out of bounds to bring him back in. At one point he had three supporting parts out of bounds, his feet and his head (yes, your head could actually be a supporting part).

 

Somethings we cant see from the vid. At :31, did the SH kid step out of bounds to bring the kid back in onto his back? Lets say he did, whats the call?

 

 

Great thread.

Edited February 14, 2012 by reftn

[bear cat brown]

Awww..this has been so much fun I hate to see it end. Very cordial.

 

If the supporting parts of either wrestler is in bounds, they are considered in bounds or a supporting part of each is out of bounds they are considered out of bounds. This shows the illustration in the Rules Book.

 

http://matref0.tripod.com/Articles/NFHS_Rules_Photos.pdf

 

On your back, the shoulders/scapula are A supporting part. But so are the feet. So is the hip. Before everyone jumps on this think about it and compare it to like situations. If a kid rolls another kid in a peterson, and the other kid is completely out of bounds, but his hip is in, isnt that two? If his hip is out (with the other kid) but his feet are in, isnt that two? You have to have supporting parts to have a takedown, yes? Can it be one foot? No.

 

If he is facing the other way with his feet out of bounds, but his hip in bounds, do you have two?

 

See the diagram at the link above.

 

In the vid, the SH kid had to go out of bounds to bring him back in. At one point he had three supporting parts out of bounds, his feet and his head (yes, your head could actually be a supporting part).

 

Somethings we cant see from the vid. At :31, did the SH kid step out of bounds to bring the kid back in onto his back? Lets say he did, whats the call?

 

 

Great thread.

 

I like to wager from time to time. I think that the match should have been stopped, would anyone like to throw a Benny into the pot to help cover my expenses this weekend?

 

Bcbiii

[Sommers]

I like to wager from time to time. I think that the match should have been stopped, would anyone like to throw a Benny into the pot to help cover my expenses this weekend?

 

Bcbiii

 

I Know Joe Waddell will place his entire Times-FreePress Savings on this one!

Edited February 14, 2012 by Sommers

[sweeptheleg]

I like to wager from time to time. I think that the match should have been stopped, would anyone like to throw a Benny into the pot to help cover my expenses this weekend?

 

Bcbiii

Im with you. 100% out of bounds no question

[bear cat brown]

Heck I think he may have been out of the county that they started rasslin in never mind out of bounds....

 

Bcb iii

[TNKO2]

Its funny, the shoulders or scapula are considered the supporting parts and not the feet if the defensive wrestler is out of bounds.....

 

thats because RULE 5. SECTION 15. ART 2 states..... supporting points are the PARTS OF THE BODY TOUCHING, OR WITHIN, THE WRESTLING AREA WHICH BEAR THE WRESTLERS WEIGHT....notice it says "BEAR THE WRESTLERS WEIGHT".....which would mean most of the weight is on the wrestlers shoulders (or mid-area) while on the ground....

 

if they were standing, their FEET would be the supporting parts because of this rule with most all of the wrestlers weight BEARING ON THE FEET....

 

But strange that when the offensive wrestler takes a guy down out of bounds, it is his FEET that are the SUPPORTING POINTS while on the ground when it should be his KNEES, THIGHS, OR BUTTOCKS as stated in RULE 5, SECTION 15, ART 2a...... WHEN DOWN ON THE MAT, THE USUAL POINTS OF SUPPORT ARE: 1.KNEES 2.THE SIDE OF THE THIGH, 3. THE BUTTOCKS.

 

clearly the weight of the offensive wrestler is not on his feet while laying down.

 

 

just an observation...........

Edited February 15, 2012 by TNKO2

[bracol268]

Just out of curiosity do they have a head to head record and who took it to the edge? Fight or Flight does that come in to play on a fast pasted judgment call? Just asking?

[TNKO2]

Edited February 16, 2012 by TNKO2