BA vs Trinity

[RedRobin]

Ensworth was sloppy at times and got a big break when the referee called the MUS back down on forward progress when he had broken out for a game tying touchdown. MUS can throw the ball and they have a very good Division I back. MUS was about to be blown out and got tough to make it very close. They will have a great season.

 

 

Agree that MUS was/is very good and will give many teams (including Ensworth, should they play again) fits this year. Also agree that they came back and gave Ensworth a scare in the 4th. With all due respect, you must not have been paying too much attention when the MUS back was called down "on forward progress". What happened is that his helmet popped off and flew several yards in the air, the refs properly blew their whistles and called the ball dead as soon as the helmet flew, and everyone (other than the ball carrier) stopped at the whistle. There was no "forward progress call" involved - by rule play stops immediately upon loss of the helmet.

[KWoodroof]

Ensworth was sloppy at times and got a big break when the referee called the MUS back down on forward progress when he had broken out for a game tying touchdown. MUS can throw the ball and they have a very good Division I back. MUS was about to be blown out and got tough to make it very close. They will have a great season.

 

 

Agree that MUS was/is very good and will give many teams (including Ensworth, should they play again) fits this year. Also agree that they came back and gave Ensworth a scare in the 4th. With all due respect, you must not have been paying too much attention when the MUS back was called down "on forward progress". What happened is that his helmet popped off and flew several yards in the air, the refs properly blew their whistles and called the ball dead as soon as the helmet flew, and everyone (other than the ball carrier) stopped at the whistle. There was no "forward progress call" involved - by rule play stops immediately upon loss of the helmet.

You are correct

[deadaim]

I saw the helmet come off but did not know the rule...thanks. I might add here that the MUS back lost his headgear at least one other time and maybe twice. This is usually caused by an improper fit and NOT a big hit....the MUS staff needs to fix this as it may have cost the team the game and it may cost the back his life.

[KWoodroof]

I saw the helmet come off but did not know the rule...thanks. I might add here that the MUS back lost his headgear at least one other time and maybe twice. This is usually caused by an improper fit and NOT a big hit....the MUS staff needs to fix this as it may have cost the team the game and it may cost the back his life.

The rule this year is that if a player's helmet comes off during play or the continuation of play, he has to leave the game for a play UNLESS his helmet came off as the result of a foul.

[Rocks63]

Hi! Just joined this site, am 1963 Trinity grad. I haven't read the MBA-Trinity thread yet but have see all our games with BA and MBA last year & this. I never played but attend with an old Vandy star from their not-so-glorious days. Just disclosure, sorry to bore. The point: I think that despite the scores relative to Trinity, the BA-MBA game will be an absolute classic: two excellent O & D lines, aggressive LBs and safeties, superior speed, & most of all very bright players who know the game & have obviously responded to first-rate coaching. I feel that the MBA O line played our good D better than BA: we weren't able to hurry the Big Red QB as we eventually did the Eagles QB. In talent I would not distinguish between the two though, strong arms & legs, both confident & bold, & both very smart. The Big Red D hassled our unproven O line all game long but the Eagles D beat our O line just in the first half. Now that I have learnt from here that Tennessee does not allow as much hard practice time that Kentucky does, I can understand why with evenly matched TN & KY teams playing their first game against each other, the KY teams might have an edge in stamina & toughness ~ no slam on anyone but hard practice clearly makes a readier team when everything else shakes out evenly. While BA doubled Trinity's great receiver James Quick, Trinity's other receivers were freed for better looks. MBA managed to bottle up James much of the night PLUS stuff star back Dalyn Dawkins most of the time. The MBA game plan seemed flawless but super players will come up with super plays despite foolish penalties (block in back) & outright blunders (illegal substitution on short yardage 3rd down). With Trinity trailing 20-10 & MBA looking dominant in the 3rd Q, James may have made his greatest play ever, a 78 yard reverse-field td in which he outran MBA's fastest players (even those who had a good angle) as he ran horizontally from the right side to the left side of the field then opened up vertically. Trinity was souped up. What souped up the Rocks more was making good on a stupid & offensive thing James did (though not being arrogant, I feel). He got flagged for 15 yards when he stutter-stepped after seeing he wouldn't be caught. The all-important xp became a 35 yard f/g & Drew Ward nearly kicked it out of the stadium. MBA came back strong but could not do better than a f/g for the rest of the game despite 2 excellent red zone opportunities. Gotta share the big stupid with you: about 11 secs left, Trinity has 4 & 11 on about MBA 45 ~ and decides to punt it. James could have simply run around & headed for his own end zone for a safety to eat up the time. No, we punt. Blocked. MBA now on our 35 or 40 with 4 secs. We manage to harry the MBA QB & he throws his 3rd interception near our goal line to end the game. My Vandy friend gave me most of these ideas. I will say this: although we played 6 good to great out-of-state teams last year, this year's MBA team seems a degree or two better than the best. As I said, I think this year's BA-MBA game was be a brutal battle & it would be foolish to predict a winner. Go Eagles & Big Red.

[TriState]

Since we are discussing how good MBA is on the BA vs Trinity thread, can anyone find the stats for Trinity running back, D. Dawkins against MBA. If MBA completely shut down Dawkins, then in my opinion, MBA is #1 in the nation.

[meritage]

rocks63 - thx for the good comments. very interesting analysis. actually i had a question related to dawkins also. we had heard he went out with any injury in the game but from your analysis of the mba game, sounds like he played the entire game. is that the case?

[KWoodroof]

I've made coffee and got some coffee cakes in. I expect we'll have guests from Blount County pretty soon.

Took 'em a few days, but they did eventually make it....