Bye-Bye AA Goodpasture

[CougarBrown]

As far as 3a, it doesn't appear that anyone has won in football other than Alcoa, with the exception of CAK last year. It looks like Alcoa is the team to beat again. It would appear that "daddy" would have had this changed several years ago. I believe that any school, private or public, which can get students outside their zone, for ANY reason should be subject to a multiplier of some sort.

 

I always wonder this also. I would think the public schools with closed zones would be in an uproar since schools like Alcoa get the same players as private schools but their parents don't have to shell out the 8-10K per year for their child to go there as the private schools do. I don't think anyone will be happy until the TSSAA makes the privates play privates & publics play publics.

[Gerry Bertier]

Which team do you pull for Gerry? Just curious.

 

Just a fan of high school football. Would like to see the TSSAA stop being political and do what makes sense.

[maroon]

I always wonder this also. I would think the public schools with closed zones would be in an uproar since schools like Alcoa get the same players as private schools but their parents don't have to shell out the 8-10K per year for their child to go there as the private schools do. I don't think anyone will be happy until the TSSAA makes the privates play privates & publics play publics.

 

If privates and public schools were split, then this would at least stop some of the complaints about privates having an unfair advantage since they don't have clozed zones. A few other issues would pop up however:

 

1) The publics with open zones would dominate the public division in foottball causing the same rift that now is present with public vs private. Would the tssaa then create 3 divisions?

 

2) Public schools who depend on the typical large gates from playing privates would suffer as most likely privates would cease or greatly decrease the games with public schools, especially in urban areas. This could result in schools which have severe budget issues to have less $ to fund fooball which is without a doubt the most expensive sport to fund.

 

3) What would keep the privates from pulling out of the tssaa all together and forming their own association? What impact would this have, if any?

[hsfootballfan777]

the publics and privates should split.the privates should leave tssaa and make their own association.it's funny when i go watch cak and grace each year how the schools they beat complain they cheat.funny when grace and cak were getting beat by tsd and oakdale nobody complained.btw how many football players many of them impact that play for alcoa and maryville live there? uh huh.private schools aren't perfect but the hick public schools taking god out of the hallways leads many to private school.and if i had a star kid supposed to be going to billy blount or heritage and had a chance to send him to alcoa or maryville=free ride in college then sorry i am sending him to maryville or alcoa

Edited October 25, 2012 by hsfootballfan777

[FBGIRL]

If privates and public schools were split, then this would at least stop some of the complaints about privates having an unfair advantage since they don't have clozed zones. A few other issues would pop up however:

 

1) The publics with open zones would dominate the public division in foottball causing the same rift that now is present with public vs private. Would the tssaa then create 3 divisions?

 

2) Public schools who depend on the typical large gates from playing privates would suffer as most likely privates would cease or greatly decrease the games with public schools, especially in urban areas. This could result in schools which have severe budget issues to have less $ to fund fooball which is without a doubt the most expensive sport to fund.

 

3) What would keep the privates from pulling out of the tssaa all together and forming their own association? What impact would this have, if any?

Should all privates pull out of TSSAA I think TSSAA would forbid any games with privates. IMHO

[maroon]

My guess is that if public and private schools were split, then the tssaa would go back to the 3 divisions for public football championships. I glanced at the tssaa website for enrollment and my guess is that A would be schools less than 550, AA would be 550 to 1000 and AAA would be over 1000. If this were to happen then who could disagree that the football state champions would look like the following most of the time (based upon recent past):

 

A: Alcoa, no one else close, ever

AA: Greenville or Signal Mtn, four out of every five years.

AAA: Maryville three out of four years, one out of every four a Rutherford Cty school.

 

The one common thread is that most of the schools mentioned have open enrollment. How will this be debated?

[Mr. Postman1]

If privates and public schools were split, then this would at least stop some of the complaints about privates having an unfair advantage since they don't have clozed zones. A few other issues would pop up however:

 

1) The publics with open zones would dominate the public division in foottball causing the same rift that now is present with public vs private. Would the tssaa then create 3 divisions?

 

2) Public schools who depend on the typical large gates from playing privates would suffer as most likely privates would cease or greatly decrease the games with public schools, especially in urban areas. This could result in schools which have severe budget issues to have less $ to fund fooball which is without a doubt the most expensive sport to fund.

 

3) What would keep the privates from pulling out of the tssaa all together and forming their own association? What impact would this have, if any?

We play 1 private school every year as of now (Goodpasture) and they dont bring enough fans to pay a light bill. Funny that many people in the sticks up here think they should drop private schools and one reason is bad gate money. They dont have a huge backing in most cases. Look at it with common sense, a school with say 335 kids doesnt have as many parents interested in their football program as a school with say 535. This equals a bad gate especially away games. Problem with private school folks like in your post maroon, is the folks that attend private schools thinks the world revolve around them. Most of us say good bye and take your gate money with you. We will make it. Maybe in the large inter city schools people feel different about the gate money because those type of parents dont have much support for their kids but out here in the country its not the same.

[maroon]

We play 1 private school every year as of now (Goodpasture) and they dont bring enough fans to pay a light bill. Funny that many people in the sticks up here think they should drop private schools and one reason is bad gate money. They dont have a huge backing in most cases. Look at it with common sense, a school with say 335 kids doesnt have as many parents interested in their football program as a school with say 535. This equals a bad gate especially away games. Problem with private school folks like in your post maroon, is the folks that attend private schools thinks the world revolve around them. Most of us say good bye and take your gate money with you. We will make it. Maybe in the large inter city schools people feel different about the gate money because those type of parents dont have much support for their kids but out here in the country its not the same.

 

Good points. I would tend to agree that the public schools located in smaller communities have the support of the community on Friday nights. It is a shame that the public schools in larger metro areas such as Nashville and Memphis don't have the same support. I get tired of hearing about how other states such as Mississippi and Alabama have more football tallent. Tennessee should have more than these states due to a larger population. I feel that the rural areas do a good job of maximizing talent, if somehow the metro areas had the same result I believe Tennessee could produce 30-40 D1 players every year. In Nashville alone there is most likely 20 D1 players who are not currently playing walking the halls of McGavock, Hunters Lane, and other metro schools. It seems like the only metro schools with backing are Pearl Cohn, Hillsboro, Maplewood recently. I don't know about Memphis, but assume it is the same or worse there.

[wannabee]

this is ridiculous goodpasture baseball and softball might not ever lose a state championship ever again plus volley ball but i know football is king so it does not really matter.

[JustinCase]

this is ridiculous goodpasture baseball and softball might not ever lose a state championship ever again plus volley ball but i know football is king so it does not really matter.

Saw that. They won AA last year, and they drop to A, what do they expect.

[JohnJohn]

I believe football wanted to stay up. Didn't work out that way.

[Bighurt]

This is not a new rule. Goodpasture's enrollment for the 2009-13 classification was 347 (625 with the multiplier) which put them in AA (3A/4A) for football. During the previous classification period, Goodpasture played in A (1A/2A) in football. I did not save the numbers from that period but I think they were around 370 (666 with the multiplier). I think the same Board of Control action about moving up 2 classes applied to them then but I am not sure. Boyd Buchanan and Grace Christian are in the same situation - i.e. their numbers would put them in AA (3A/4A) for football but they are A (1A/2A) because of the BOC's action.

Edited October 25, 2012 by Bighurt