Should the TSSAA BOC add a third division? D3 aka "Whiners Division"?

[TheAmbassador]

I respectfully disagree. I will say that the private school I broadcast football games for on the radio already plays up one class from the rules that apply to all of the publics we participate against. Using your logic, the class we are in is fair. I will agree with you. I have no problem playing in 2A even though we are a 1A sized school.

So private schools don't have the players that public schools have and just out worked them? No sir, that isn't true. I see public schools working year around. I see public schools working everyday for hours upon hours.

[3rdandLong]

This poll is laughable, in a not funny way.

Edited June 15, 2015 by 3rdandLong

[ReitzFan]

So private schools don't have the players that public schools have and just out worked them? No sir, that isn't true. I see public schools working year around. I see public schools working everyday for hours upon hours.

So the private school I broadcast for didn't outwork the public school we beat for a district title even though our roster had only around 30 players (with not nearly that many even seeing the field) versus our opponents nearly 80 man roster?  Don't believe me, check the rosters.  No sir.  Your argument is weak at best.  Both public schools and private schools work hard.

 

I also see that you ignored my point that the private school I work with already plays by a rule that you say you have no problem with.  

[ReitzFan]

Private schools might not offer "financial aid" but we all know they offer different types of "work study" in order to pay tuition.

Please give us specific instances of D1 privates offering "financial aid" or "work study" in order to pay tuition.  If you are not willing to name specific schools and individuals, you really need to withdraw your claim as it is nothing more than one man whining.

[wardawg2038]

The way I see it is simple. If a parent thinks their child has a better opportunity at a private school by all means send them. The question I have if the private route is so much better then why do you want to play in the public division? Have your own league there are plenty enough teams to have large and small class. Heck it provides an athletic tic challenge for your student athletes you can play top notch competition. Yet the privates want to stay in the public division why? Easy they have an advantage and know it they are handcuffed by zones or rural settings etc. They cry travel as a problem with the split I doubt Nashville Christian would have a problem filling the schedule with close teams DCA, FRA, CPA, New Grace school etc. The split should have occurred a long time ago, the multiplier did nothing but shift the problem. To get on here and act as if it is whining to want a level playing field is arrogant. NCS in single A can potentially get players from anywhere in Nashville or surrounding area. While a Lake Co. For example is going to pull from their rural area only.

[wardawg2038]

You can say name a private school. That is condemning but hey why not. Give two exames of the same private school

Don't think it is right to call a school out by name but know for a fact this happened int Chattanooga. The private school playing in 3A public division had a kid from Chatt Central zone playing for them whose dad did some "work" painting coaches office etc. At the school they his business that got his son discount on tution in leiu of payment. The sam school had a coach kicked out of Central's gym as he was at the public middle school wrestling tournament, which the private school was obviously not part of handing out pamplets about their school and talking with parents about sending their child to said school. That is an advantage. I will be honest here I have no problem with Baylor, McCallie, GPS doing this because they play in DII. If you gonna play Public then follow public rules. Play with who shows up on your doorstep.

[kenmynattcpa]

The way I see it is simple.You can say name a private school. That is condemning but hey why not. Give two exames of the same private school.....

Don't think it is right to call a school out by name but know for a fact this happened int Chattanooga. The private school playing in 3A public division had a kid from Chatt Central zone playing for them whose dad did some "work" painting coaches office etc. At the school they his business that got his son discount on tution in leiu of payment. The sam school had a coach kicked out of Central's gym as he was at the public middle school wrestling tournament, which the private school was obviously not part of handing out pamplets about their school and talking with parents about sending their child to said school. That is an advantage. I will be honest here I have no problem with Baylor, McCallie, GPS doing this because they play in DII. If you gonna play Public then follow public rules. Play with who shows up on your doorstep.

 

 

wardawg2038, a simple man with simple plan based on simply unproven accusations, rumors, and conspiracy theories involving pamphlets. I'm sure him or another of his brethren will be bringing up next  about these DI private school coaches flying around in black helicopters recruiting players.

 

How about drone usage? You just know these 23 DI privates have their own drones ready to bend the rules, just ask Bobby Sharpe and Clint Satterfield, the heroes of paranoid theorists everywhere. 

[TheAmbassador]

So the private school I broadcast for didn't outwork the public school we beat for a district title even though our roster had only around 30 players (with not nearly that many even seeing the field) versus our opponents nearly 80 man roster? Don't believe me, check the rosters. No sir. Your argument is weak at best. Both public schools and private schools work hard.

 

I also see that you ignored my point that the private school I work with already plays by a rule that you say you have no problem with.

No sir, you don't want to get into a debate with me. I can assure you that. Most private schools play by the "rules" however, the ability to pull kids from 25-30 miles away is a legal tool that does give them an advantage. As for your number of players? Your numbers might be smaller because your school doesn't accept just anyone into the school. The majority of players you do have on your team will be quality football players.

[TheAmbassador]

Please give us specific instances of D1 privates offering "financial aid" or "work study" in order to pay tuition. If you are not willing to name specific schools and individuals, you really need to withdraw your claim as it is nothing more than one man whining.

One man whining huh? You best check yourself. I've been around here a lot longer than you and this old boy don't whine, youngun. If you check my posts you will see I give accurate information. I don't make up propaganda and I don't boost my team's ego.

[tradertwo]

So the private school I broadcast for didn't outwork the public school we beat for a district title even though our roster had only around 30 players (with not nearly that many even seeing the field) versus our opponents nearly 80 man roster?  Don't believe me, check the rosters.  No sir.  Your argument is weak at best.  Both public schools and private schools work hard.

 

I also see that you ignored my point that the private school I work with already plays by a rule that you say you have no problem with.  

The Patriots won the super bowl with a 54 man roster (not nearly that many even seeing the field). Should Adamsville beat them because they have more players? No, because the Patriots don't play with the first 54 guys that try out, they choose which 54 make the roster. Trinity is located in a city of over 76,000 people, pull players from well beyond the city limit, and beyond even the Madison County line. If 750 kids apply to the school for admission, a finite number will be accepted and the rest denied...this whole process is acceptable via current TSSAA guidelines, and (no accusation being made) should the administration be inclined, athletics could be the determining factor for acceptance. If any part of that is false, please reveal what I'm missing, and please don't come back with "we don't do that" or "that's not our mission", it's a huge built in advantage should it be taken. Like I said, I'm not accusing TCA of anything, just using them because of their not so unique situation. The current set of rules allow privates that option, and no sane person will argue that rural public schools are not at a disadvantage for it.

[BIGPURPLEMACHINE]

wardawg2038, a simple man with simple plan based on simply unproven accusations, rumors, and conspiracy theories involving pamphlets. I'm sure him or another of his brethren will be bringing up next about these DI private school coaches flying around in black helicopters recruiting players.

 

How about drone usage? You just know these 23 DI privates have their own drones ready to bend the rules, just ask Bobby Sharpe and Clint Satterfield, the heroes of paranoid theorists everywhere.

Why the sarcasm Kenny?? I don't know you personally and have nothing against you. But he said he knew for a fact about that 3a school. So do you think he is lying?? He is one of the people with a different opinion than you that actually brought some specifics to the table instead of blind accusations. Why do him like that??

[wardawg2038]

Kenny this attitude is part of the reasons privates are disliked by publics. The arrogance and how you act as if the publics are ignorant and just a bunch of crybabies. Let me put it to you soon his way, believe what you want but my conspiracy as you called it is FACT. Myself, the wrestling coach at the high school I was at and the SRO are the ones who asked the man to leave and escorted him out of the gym. True story. Their AD after we called the private school in question about it apologized and said he would reprimand the coach in question. Whether it happened or not who knows. You never did answer my question why if the private school is so much better are you guys whining about having your own league. Play the BGA, CPA, FRA even Jackson scoolhs JCS, USJ they not that far? Better competition makes you better right?