Webb at CPA (Quarterfinals)

[Warriors2011]

1 hour ago, chainsaw2 said:

Hands are not always inside shoulder pads-OL hands on outside but not a handful of jersey-looks like tremendous upper body strength but it's a twisting take down-I think its holding but was not called so maybe I'm wrong-the games I saw all of the OL were doing it so it's definitely a technique

I haven't watched the film but Warrior Son #1 was an OL so I've gone down this path of holding vs. not-holding many a time.  What you're describing--if I understand it correctly--sounds like holding.  Having a handful of jersey is NOT a requirement for a holding call; in fact most holding calls probably don't involve a handful of jersey--(it's easier to see and get called though if officials see a jersey stretch).  If the OL puts his hands on the outside of the defender's arms and grabs enough to twist the defender's upper body, that should draw a flag.  If the OL hooks the defender's arm to take him down, that's holding.  If the OL hooks the defender's side under the arm and twists for a takedown that's probably holding too.

[chainsaw2]

Thanks Warriors- you have answered my question and I agree.  I think kids are so driven for pancake blocks this occurs and should be called. I can see the DL getting driven back and getting pancaked, but not the above.  Thanks again

[RaisedEmRightNStillPraying]

I thought it was only holding if ya got caught!  

[Booger]

2 hours ago, chainsaw2 said:

Thanks Warriors- you have answered my question and I agree.  I think kids are so driven for pancake blocks this occurs and should be called. I can see the DL getting driven back and getting pancaked, but not the above.  Thanks again

not no irish gettin caught on film being pancake

Booger just sayin 

[Booger]

37 minutes ago, RaiseEmRightnPray said:

I thought it was only holding if ya got caught!  

or ignored

Booger just sayin 

[chainsaw2]

BCD-didn't mean to not respond to you. I haven't seen that particular game but I watched several. I think it makes a huge difference as the OL dominates the los.

[RaisedEmRightNStillPraying]

8 hours ago, Booger said:

or ignored

Booger just sayin 

From what we've seen in past years, zebras usually let the kids play a little more than regular season.

Looks like its finally going to be football weather. Time for a good ole slobber knocker.....

[Kublah]

Watched a little film on both of these....

While the demise of Webb has been greatly exaggerated, CPA is better. Webb is faster, but CPA is bigger and better in the trenches and solid in every facet of the game.

BUT! If Webb's #15 is healthy and gets 20+ carries, then they can win. Nobody on CPA can touch him if he turns the corner.

 

[Spartan4Life]

7 minutes ago, Kublah said:

Watched a little film on both of these....

While the demise of Webb has been greatly exaggerated, CPA is better. Webb is faster, but CPA is bigger and better in the trenches and solid in every facet of the game.

BUT! If Webb's #15 is healthy and gets 20+ carries, then they can win. Nobody on CPA can touch him if he turns the corner.

 

I watched some film of both as well. I had a hard time judging the size and line play because CPA's film was a much wider shot. Of course they throw it more so they don't need to be as tight as Webb's film but I couldn't even read the jersey numbers of the players. What is the line size of CPA? I'm sure they are bigger than Webb's. 

CPA is the favorite, I agree but Webb can win this game. Anytime you have home run hitters in the backfield all bets are off. 

Still waiting to see if a key starter for Webb will be able to go Friday. 

[chainsaw2]

Sparty-

See my prior questions and comments on line play and get ready.

[Booger]

13 minutes ago, Kublah said:

Watched a little film on both of these....

While the demise of Webb has been greatly exaggerated, CPA is better. Webb is faster, but CPA is bigger and better in the trenches and solid in every facet of the game.

BUT! If Webb's #15 is healthy and gets 20+ carries, then they can win. Nobody on CPA can touch him if he turns the corner.

 

we did

Booger just sayin 

[Spartan4Life]

40 minutes ago, Booger said:

we did

Booger just sayin 

Howard turned the corner one time against your Irish and he scored on a 75 yard run and left everyone (including your own speedster Cameron Wynn). Unfortunately, it was called back by a very questionable holding call 10 miles away from the play.

The key to ND's victory was not letting him or Jahlil Jefferson #13 turn the corner by hitting them before they got started (Which I believe was the point of Kublah). That and of course some sloppy special teams from Webb. 

While ND and CPA are the favorites to win these quarterfinal games this is one bracket that I wouldn't be surprised if either Webb or Grace pulled the upset. Got some good football going on in the top bracket. The bottom side of the DII-AA bracket seems to be a little easier. I doubt anyone will challenge Lausanne until the State Championship.