East/NE teams

[TotallynotLEO]

Things I've noticed to this point in the season. I'm also choosing to focus small school stuff mostly or some of the lesser talked about programs. You want the sport to grow? it needs to grow everywhere at all levels. 

In region 1, Cocke County has made great strides from where they were till now.  I know,  I know,  small school and all.  Still,  for such a small area that hasn't produced large numbers it was nice seeing them with so many kids on a team.  Just filling a roster is a challenge in a lot of small schools.  Can they get by Greeneville or Crockett?  

How about Scott County.  First team ever,  first year in the sport. They've won a couple duals already. So who cares if it's marginal competition.  That's a positive. Good for them. 

175lbs is pretty tight right now and I've already seen several kids making the way down to 165lbs. How many of the 190lbs try for 175lbs? There's a lot of movement right now in all weight classes.  I mention these classes since we changed this year from the old 170 , 182 and 195 to the current 190, 175, 165. Be interesting to see how it shakes out and which one gets most crowded.  

PF looks pretty good with hammers sprinkled throughout the line up at various weights. 

Clinton has a really impressive kid at 165lbs that will compete with anyone at that weight or 157lbs. 

I can't speak to Gibbs but I suspect they'll be strong in the lower weights.  

Seymour looks to be improved.  I know Maryville is down but Seymour beat them in duals.

I know Jeff County is big school but they've still got a few kids that look good, maybe enough for Science Hill but not to challenge DB. 

There's several other changes this year with kids getting injured or moving,  choosing not to compete this year but it's not fair to talk about that here.  They can tell their own story or not.  It'll work itself out.  

This board needs to liven up some.  

[noonesfool]

5 hours ago, TotallynotLEO said:

Things I've noticed to this point in the season. I'm also choosing to focus small school stuff mostly or some of the lesser talked about programs. You want the sport to grow? it needs to grow everywhere at all levels. 

In region 1, Cocke County has made great strides from where they were till now.  I know,  I know,  small school and all.  Still,  for such a small area that hasn't produced large numbers it was nice seeing them with so many kids on a team.  Just filling a roster is a challenge in a lot of small schools.  Can they get by Greeneville or Crockett?  

How about Scott County.  First team ever,  first year in the sport. They've won a couple duals already. So who cares if it's marginal competition.  That's a positive. Good for them. 

175lbs is pretty tight right now and I've already seen several kids making the way down to 165lbs. How many of the 190lbs try for 175lbs? There's a lot of movement right now in all weight classes.  I mention these classes since we changed this year from the old 170 , 182 and 195 to the current 190, 175, 165. Be interesting to see how it shakes out and which one gets most crowded.  

PF looks pretty good with hammers sprinkled throughout the line up at various weights. 

Clinton has a really impressive kid at 165lbs that will compete with anyone at that weight or 157lbs. 

I can't speak to Gibbs but I suspect they'll be strong in the lower weights.  

Seymour looks to be improved.  I know Maryville is down but Seymour beat them in duals.

I know Jeff County is big school but they've still got a few kids that look good, maybe enough for Science Hill but not to challenge DB. 

There's several other changes this year with kids getting injured or moving,  choosing not to compete this year but it's not fair to talk about that here.  They can tell their own story or not.  It'll work itself out.  

This board needs to liven up some.  

Enjoyed your comments. Middle school wrestling is growing in NE TN as well.

[oceansize42]

6 hours ago, TotallynotLEO said:

In region 1, Cocke County has made great strides from where they were till now.  I know,  I know,  small school and all.  Still,  for such a small area that hasn't produced large numbers it was nice seeing them with so many kids on a team.  Just filling a roster is a challenge in a lot of small schools.  Can they get by Greeneville or Crockett?  

During the 20-21 and 21-22 seasons I saw Cocke county early in the season with well over twenty kids on their team. By the end of the season they were down to seven or eight. Hopefully that doesn't happen this time around, but for whatever reason there has been an inability to keep kids invested, but I think this is relatively common amongst small schools.  

I was at the Border duals this weekend which was largely small school participation.  The numbers are always huge in middle school and then come high school everyone vanishes. I don't know why.  One thing I do know is there are a good number of kids who think, quite wrongly, they're going to be a football, baseball, or basketball star.  Parents are stoking that belief as well.

Something I managed to miss or perhaps they just started, but Providence Academy now has a MS wrestling team. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by oceansize42

[noonesfool]

2 hours ago, oceansize42 said:

During the 20-21 and 21-22 seasons I saw Cocke county early in the season with well over twenty kids on their team. By the end of the season they were down to seven or eight. Hopefully that doesn't happen this time around, but for whatever reason there has been an inability to keep kids invested, but I think this is relatively common amongst small schools.  

I was at the Border duals this weekend which was largely small school participation.  The numbers are always huge in middle school and then come high school everyone vanishes. I don't know why.  One thing I do know is there are a good number of kids who think, quite wrongly, they're going to be a football, baseball, or basketball star.  Parents are stoking that belief as well.

Something I managed to miss or perhaps they just started, but Providence Academy now has a MS wrestling team. 

Correct on Providence.

[TotallynotLEO]

3 hours ago, oceansize42 said:

 

I was at the Border duals this weekend which was largely small school participation.  

Anything interesting?  Looks like Jimmy Taylor has dropped quite a bit.  He was 195lbs for DB last year.  He should be competitive at that weight.  I know Adams from Jeff County dropped from 220lbs last year to 175lbs this year too.  That's a huge cut. 

Did DB not bring many varsity?

 

[oceansize42]

9 hours ago, TotallynotLEO said:

Anything interesting?  Looks like Jimmy Taylor has dropped quite a bit.  He was 195lbs for DB last year.  He should be competitive at that weight.  I know Adams from Jeff County dropped from 220lbs last year to 175lbs this year too.  That's a huge cut. 

Did DB not bring many varsity?

 

Early in the season so you never know what coaches are doing with lineups, but Crockett was the best small school TN team that day.  Again it is early, so take that with a grain of salt. Crockett and TN High have the raw numbers to sustain a complete lineup through the season unless something really wrong happens.   Elizabethton and Sullivan East likely don't have the raw numbers to sustain a really productive season.  

DB took their key guys to the southern slam.  So nothing to see at border duals where they are concerned.

Edited December 4, 2023 by oceansize42

[oceansize42]

Crockett over Gibbs 39-33 on 12-12-2023.  Gibbs had FFs at 157 and 175, see if that remains the case as the season goes along. It does appear looking at Track Gibbs could be light at those weight classes.  

[TotallynotLEO]

12 minutes ago, oceansize42 said:

Crockett over Gibbs 39-33 on 12-12-2023.  Gibbs had FFs at 157 and 175, see if that remains the case as the season goes along. It does appear looking at Track Gibbs could be light at those weight classes.  

I saw that.  PF clearly in the lead at that sectional.  Seymour looking good too.  

[KidGloves]

22 minutes ago, TotallynotLEO said:

I saw that.  PF clearly in the lead at that sectional.  Seymour looking good too.  

Yes. Seymour is solid. I’m excited to keep my eyes on them. Comes is a stud. 

[TotallynotLEO]

8 minutes ago, KidGloves said:

Yes. Seymour is solid. I’m excited to keep my eyes on them. Comes is a stud. 

They have some solid freshman that are contributing and a mix of older kids that are doing well.  Sam is a hammer. Right now,  I'd say it's PF and Seymour going to state duals out of that section.  

If PF gets a couple kids on the roster that we haven't seen yet this year like Jackson and Carbal can they challenge Soddy?

[cobrakid8]

50 minutes ago, KidGloves said:

Yes. Seymour is solid. I’m excited to keep my eyes on them. Comes is a stud. 

Not sure if they brought everybody, but they wrestled at the East Ridge (Gobbler Classic) duals a few weeks back against Soddy and Soddy won 58-18 against Seymour. Comes for sure is a stud, I knew coming out of that region last year he had a chance to win it all, he was impressive