1 Free transfer??

[SLBK]

1 minute ago, HonkyNinja12 said:

Doesn't qualify for the data I was talking about the data on the satisfaction of the current program etc is out there. Not whether some ppl used to not educate or “scam”.  I can show you a million examples of scams in government lmao look around you could argue the whole darn thing is a scam lol hence why parents with normal kids want more choices and tired of public schools that more worried about gender assigment training than actual learning and developing. 

Parents with “normal kids” are free to send their kids to whichever private school they wish already. 

[HonkyNinja12]

Just now, SLBK said:

Parents with “normal kids” are free to send their kids to whichever private school they wish already. 

Not everyone can afford it hence the program. 

[HonkyNinja12]

Data and stats are out there form your own opinions on academic achievements and change of that space possibly in the future. I'm good on not having a debate with 5 ppl cause its a emotional subject for some. Whats the verdict on the transfer rule?

[Rerun92]

4 minutes ago, HonkyNinja12 said:

Data and stats are out there form your own opinions on academic achievements and change of that space possibly in the future. I'm good on not having a debate with 5 ppl cause its a emotional subject for some. Whats the verdict on the transfer rule?

You haven't share any data.  Exit ACT is the only scores you'd have from privates and if you only take who you want of course the average score would be hire.  Did you know there are no requirements other than a degree to teach in private schools? 

[tradertwo]

1 hour ago, HonkyNinja12 said:

Data and stats are out there form your own opinions on academic achievements and change of that space possibly in the future. I'm good on not having a debate with 5 ppl cause its a emotional subject for some. Whats the verdict on the transfer rule?

You're right on all points...what was I thinking? The clincher was me realizing that more governmental control from higher levels always leads to the betterment of whatever has their current interest. It's a shoo-in that Nashville can run my local agenda better than county government, and that goes double for the school system and local BOE. I'm also appreciative of your minimal input without supplying any of the "data" that you suggest is readily available (I've already researched the topic from the onset, and more empirical data could possibly confuse me). It is an emotional subject for me because I actually care about our local education, and since you'd prefer not to delve deeper into the subject with someone who does I will gladly abstain from further debate. One last thing before you detach yourself...if in the future you'd rather not engage in a discussion you might think about using a common technique to avoid it, and simply don't interject yourself.

Edited December 8, 2023 by tradertwo

[tradertwo]

4 hours ago, strongx said:

It’s a sensitive subject that I clearly don’t understand. Is someone thinking that taking kids who do poorly on tests (due to whatever reasons) and sending them to a private school will help them do better on tests? That’s some wishful thinking. Most (not all) kids who perform poorly in the classroom do not have the support outside of the classroom to push them to do better. I’m not sure how changing schools is going to help that unless the new school’s teachers are gonna become heavily involved.

Again, I’ve not really kept up with the subject. 

When is a decision supposed to be made on the transfers being eligible?

Sorry to rant with multiple posts on the subject, but you're looking (from the highlighted text) at this from a logical perspective. The Voucher Bill will not affect the kids who perform poorly on tests. The bill simply allows any student to apply the state portion of educational funding toward private school tuition. Private schools reserve the right to restrict their enrollment through a selection committee...meaning they have no obligation to enroll a "poor student". Privates will have the luxury of enrolling whomever they choose (best students, best athletes, ect...) while excluding "undesirable" applicants. If this in any way would benefit underachieving students by placing them in a better environment for them to be educated, I would wholeheartedly support it. Fact is that it's an avenue for private schools to select the most beneficial students from public education, and to be paid by taxpayers to do it.

[MidTennFootball]

11 minutes ago, tradertwo said:

Sorry to rant with multiple posts on the subject, but you're looking (from the highlighted text) at this from a logical perspective. The Voucher Bill will not affect the kids who perform poorly on tests. The bill simply allows any student to apply the state portion of educational funding toward private school tuition. Private schools reserve the right to restrict their enrollment through a selection committee...meaning they have no obligation to enroll a "poor student". Privates will have the luxury of enrolling whomever they choose (best students, best athletes, ect...) while excluding "undesirable" applicants. If this in any way would benefit underachieving students by placing them in a better environment for them to be educated, I would wholeheartedly support it. Fact is that it's an avenue for private schools to select the most beneficial students from public education, and to be paid by taxpayers to do it.

Thank you for saying it better than I ever could

[GWAVE1]

1 hour ago, tradertwo said:

Sorry to rant with multiple posts on the subject, but you're looking (from the highlighted text) at this from a logical perspective. The Voucher Bill will not affect the kids who perform poorly on tests. The bill simply allows any student to apply the state portion of educational funding toward private school tuition. Private schools reserve the right to restrict their enrollment through a selection committee...meaning they have no obligation to enroll a "poor student". Privates will have the luxury of enrolling whomever they choose (best students, best athletes, ect...) while excluding "undesirable" applicants. If this in any way would benefit underachieving students by placing them in a better environment for them to be educated, I would wholeheartedly support it. Fact is that it's an avenue for private schools to select the most beneficial students from public education, and to be paid by taxpayers to do it.

Nailed it

[HonkyNinja12]

2 hours ago, tradertwo said:

You're right on all points...what was I thinking? The clincher was me realizing that more governmental control from higher levels always leads to the betterment of whatever has their current interest. It's a shoo-in that Nashville can run my local agenda better than county government, and that goes double for the school system and local BOE. I'm also appreciative of your minimal input without supplying any of the "data" that you suggest is readily available (I've already researched the topic from the onset, and more empirical data could possibly confuse me). It is an emotional subject for me because I actually care about our local education, and since you'd prefer not to delve deeper into the subject with someone who does I will gladly abstain from further debate. One last thing before you detach yourself...if in the future you'd rather not engage in a discussion you might think about using a common technique to avoid it, and simply don't interject yourself.

“Everybody gets so emotional lol He’s just looking at the data and where public schools are compared to where they have been and where they are trending. They are down in ever major category such as Science, Math, Reading for 30 years and no amount of funding or boo hooing has seemed to curve it because its a home, policy and ten other thing issue so why not try something different instead of pumping money in something that keeps failing.  Idk on whose right or wrong but something will give. The average kid coming out of high school struggles to read at a 7th grade level or do simple math and don’t have any ability to work with their hands either lol“

“Look at satisfaction rate and data for current voucher program. Compare scores, attendance, post secondary education levels etc of private vs public. Compare private vs public with no williamson county or magnet schools included is quite telling. Plenty of actual data out there if you look. I dont want to change the whole thread I was just making a point on someones comment on Gov Lee hating pub schools which I thought was not accurate.”

https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4295760-plummeting-test-scores-an-america-getting-dumber-might-be-the-least-of-our-problems/amp/

https://tennesseelookout.com/briefs/report-tennessee-public-school-student-losses-traced-to-surge-in-private-school-enrollment/
 

 

^my original posts 

What are you trying to argue about what Im saying? Actually be specific I never said I liked Nashville/govt control, county control sounds nice if it were more that way  Nashville and more so Washington run the show the reason many if could afford it and had the means would go private. Im using specific issues and points and you’re not telling me Im wrong just that you dont agree and rambling about stuff so whats the point lol thats why I'm saying its wasted time Id rather just talk sports I could careless which route TN whatever is best for kids. Ive done pretty well with a old country school education. I was just defending Bill lee as I dont think hes out to get everybody lol

- as for any more data than links above go to any private school website look at the data I mentioned of above then go to state website and compare to public to much to link or heck just go to the schools. Nothing I said requires any more than that or ask around not hard to figure out why one is typically a better learning environment lol 

[SLBK]

5 hours ago, HonkyNinja12 said:

Not everyone can afford it hence the program. 

Sounds like socialism to me. 

[HonkyNinja12]

8 minutes ago, SLBK said:

Sounds like socialism to me. 

Its less like socialism lol taking ppls money (tax payers) who dont want to pay into a system anymore is more socialism. ppl would like to get money back and choose for thier kids. Or poor ppl would like to go to a school not ran by Govt crazies more worried about gender studies

Edited December 9, 2023 by HonkyNinja12

[SLBK]

22 minutes ago, HonkyNinja12 said:

Its less like socialism lol taking ppls money (tax payers) who dont want to pay into a system anymore is more socialism. ppl would like to get money back and choose for thier kids. Or poor ppl would like to go to a school not ran by Govt crazies more worried about gender studies

What county in Tennessee is promoting “gender studies?”