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I'm at a misunderstanding with some of y'all. Indy played in their DISTRICT TOURNAMENT  last year against Brentwood, nolensville, and then ravenwood. Those were games for the DISTRICT tournament which Indy won and then moved on to play Hillsboro for regional title which was seeding for sub-state.. This year Indy wins the District and is then seeded to play Lincoln County 6-23 while 4 other teams from the district also advanced.

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I’m not even real sure what you’re trying to say? Lincoln county did finish in the top 4 of their district even at 6-23. are you just mad because Brentwood got healthy and busted that bracket up

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2 minutes ago, alessic7 said:

I'm at a misunderstanding with some of y'all. Indy played in their DISTRICT TOURNAMENT  last year against Brentwood, nolensville, and then ravenwood. Those were games for the DISTRICT tournament which Indy won and then moved on to play Hillsboro for regional title which was seeding for sub-state.. This year Indy wins the District and is then seeded to play Lincoln County 6-23 while 4 other teams from the district also advanced.

No they didn’t those were region games after district tournament.

brentwood wasn’t even  in their district last year .

last year district was ravenwood,Columbia, Indy, nolensville and summit

 

in district tournament they beat Summit and Ravenwood.

as we’ve said before same setup it’s always been. 

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Either way, if you're going to send 4 teams from a district, do away with district tourney  and advance the top 4 finishers from the regular season. Make the regular season actually count. District tournaments are played on neutral courts there is no seeding advantage, especially when in competitive districts anyone can upset anyone in a one game scenario.

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55 minutes ago, alessic7 said:

Either way, if you're going to send 4 teams from a district, do away with district tourney  and advance the top 4 finishers from the regular season. Make the regular season actually count. District tournaments are played on neutral courts there is no seeding advantage, especially when in competitive districts anyone can upset anyone in a one game scenario.

I’m not even real sure what you’re trying to say? Lincoln county did finish in the top 4 of their district even at 6-23.

are you just mad because Brentwood got healthy and busted that bracket up this year?

The regular season does mean something,

it’s seeding for district tournament.

upsets are why march madness is the greatest sporting event on earth.

 

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9 hours ago, alessic7 said:

Either way, if you're going to send 4 teams from a district, do away with district tourney  and advance the top 4 finishers from the regular season. Make the regular season actually count. District tournaments are played on neutral courts there is no seeding advantage, especially when in competitive districts anyone can upset anyone in a one game scenario.

so you basically want it like Football, so that teams cant "cinderella" their way thru a tournament and make a DEEP run to either a region or even STATE tournament bid... *sigh* yeah Regular Season MEANS SOMETHING, especially in those districts that have an uneven number of teams, ya finish first you more than likely just have a Bye to the Region Tournament(just seeding matches after that) but for those who didn't do as well they have to play their way in, I've seen some teams pull off massive upsets as 5 and 6 seeds in 6-7 team districts and put a good run at trying to get to the Sub State, so what point are you trying to get at here... would you rather we just do like Football and just go "ok we just take 4 teams from each district(news flash some classes have districts that only have 3 due to enrollment issues, and/or sanctions), and just play straight to the big house from 64 teams; yeah... no, we've had this System for a while now and it ain't changing and MOST of the time it gets it right... i can tell ya what i have a problem with... "Blind drawing" the Elite 8 for each... how about  we SEED the teams and then pair them that way(putting teams from the same district on opposite ends of the bracket obviously) and do it that way... yeah ideal idea but never gonna happen *sigh*

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Imagine if the NCAA tournament were seeded entirely based on how you finish in your conference tournament; it would be a sham; teams projected as high seeds based on their body.of work throughout the season would be left out if they were to lose an early conference tournament game. This is exactly how TSSAA is setting up their tournament.

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9 hours ago, alessic7 said:

Imagine if the NCAA tournament were seeded entirely based on how you finish in your conference tournament; it would be a sham; teams projected as high seeds based on their body.of work throughout the season would be left out if they were to lose an early conference tournament game. This is exactly how TSSAA is setting up their tournament.

Projected high seeds aren't left out of the field of 68 if they don't win their conference tournament, but mid major teams can win theirs and make it to the big dance. You obviously have some kind of axe to grind and are twisting facts to try and support your narrative. Nothing in life will satisfy everyone, but the progressive system in place that rewards past achievements with future positioning is as good as it gets. The only "bad" part of TSSAA's system happens when that system of reward for past wins is interrupted and the blind draw for placement in the final eight takes place... more often than not the two best teams don't play for the gold & silver balls, but for the right to advance. Hard to argue that the best team didn't get the gold, but very often second best doesn't get the silver.

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On 2/27/2024 at 4:46 PM, alessic7 said:

Either way, if you're going to send 4 teams from a district, do away with district tourney  and advance the top 4 finishers from the regular season. Make the regular season actually count. District tournaments are played on neutral courts there is no seeding advantage, especially when in competitive districts anyone can upset anyone in a one game scenario.

District Tournaments is not a mandatory thing from the TSSAA. TSSAA can careless about the district tournaments, as long as they have "four teams" from this district. 

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18 hours ago, tradertwo said:

Projected high seeds aren't left out of the field of 68 if they don't win their conference tournament, but mid major teams can win theirs and make it to the big dance. You obviously have some kind of axe to grind and are twisting facts to try and support your narrative. Nothing in life will satisfy everyone, but the progressive system in place that rewards past achievements with future positioning is as good as it gets. The only "bad" part of TSSAA's system happens when that system of reward for past wins is interrupted and the blind draw for placement in the final eight takes place... more often than not the two best teams don't play for the gold & silver balls, but for the right to advance. Hard to argue that the best team didn't get the gold, but very often second best doesn't get the silver.

No twisting of facts bro. Maybe I can give an example that hits closer to home. Let's say UT, a possible projected 1 seed based on their body of work, lost in the quarterfinal of the SEC tourney to a solid team like a Miss St. UT would miss the NCAA tournament. This is the TSSAA setup. 

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4 hours ago, alessic7 said:

No twisting of facts bro. Maybe I can give an example that hits closer to home. Let's say UT, a possible projected 1 seed based on their body of work, lost in the quarterfinal of the SEC tourney to a solid team like a Miss St. UT would miss the NCAA tournament. This is the TSSAA setup. 

Not even the same. In high school if you lose in the finals you're done, lose in the semi final game and your done, lose in the quarterfinal game and your done, lose in sectionals and your done. Top two in regionals advance, top four in district advance, and district placement in regular season determines seeding for District Tournament.

  In the NCAA the body of work is judged by a panel of voters to determine who's in and where they are seeded, with the exception of provisions for tournament champions being awarded an automatic spot in the top 68.

  Would you rather have a system based on performance or let a bunch of dudes with bias argue for tournament placement? Bet you'd squeal like a rat if a committee placed your team  further down than you felt they deserved, or worse yet, if they didn't make the tournament at all and someone that they beat did.

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They quit doing the blind draw? The 2 best ranked teams in state play the last game on Wednesday (bradley, Clarksville, ) I haven't seen Clarksville play but bradley is a beast. Beat teams in Alabama and Florida that made their own state tourneys, prettily handedly too. Then best cleveland  who beat Blackman 

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