mtnman Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Does DII have a region tournament for the individual state tournament? If not, do they just seed them by record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjgIII Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 No region mtnman, they all go. They do have some sort of seeding criteria but dang if I can ever figure it out. I'm sure someone can 'splain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best_of_the_west Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 I think it's based on past placing. The defending champion (if there is one) is on the opposite side of the next highest placer and so on. I'm sure there's more to it, but I think that's the basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestleSBA Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 Well as a DII coach it is just as confusing trust me. I think the first criterion is being a returning medalist, then I think it is having beaten a returning medalist, and finallwy I think it is record and head to head competiiton. But I am really not sure but that is what I think it is for the most part, please don't hold me to it though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHSCoach Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 You are right, first it is returing medalist, then if you beat a returning medalist, that is it, but lets say you split with a returning medalist then it does not count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb56 Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 But I do not think it counts if you beat one (returning medalist) in State duals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandonlyone Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 So all DII wrestlers qualify for the state tourney. This doesnt seem quiet fair especially to the DI guys who must place in the top four in a twenty-plus team Region tourney. Just your thoughts on this unfortunate situation. A guy could be a four time state qualifer DII but could never beat a DI wrestler who was never able to place and make the state tourney. Just curious on what other peole think about this format. Congrats to the Coach Simpson and the Irish and best of luck to all wrestlers next weekend and at the Big Show in Chattanooga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHSCoach Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Sorry it ofends you, but we didn't ask to be seperated, just the nature of the beast, I will say it is easier to medal at the DII tournament, but it is a lot harder to win it. When they seperated out the DII schools they took the cream of Tennessee wrestling, McCallie, Baylor, Father Ryan, MBA, Notre Dame, CBHS. We may not be anywhere near these schools, but we hold our own against most DI schools. We beat 3 of the 4 schools in the regional duals and the one we lost to Maryville was on criteria 39 to 39. If you want to put us back in I am all for it. One state, One sport, One champion. Best of luck to everyone at there regional tournaments and state tournaments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneandonlyone Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 I agree with you coach, they should increase the number of participants and lump then into one group and let the state champ be the ONLY state champ. But the easiest way for wrestler to qualify for the individual state tourney is to make a DII lineup. Once again good luck to everyone the next couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBear Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 KC Coach- Please explain to me how it easier to win a championship in DI than it is in DII? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
best_of_the_west Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Mr. BayouBear, here are the best wrestlers at each weight (in my opinion, of course). 103-Doster/Johnson 112-Dunning 119-Cordell 125-James 130-Cleveland 135-Leen 140-Blair 145-Manley 152-Scott 160-Gibson 171-Blackmon 189-Marable 215-Saint 275-Huffstetler Just from how I see it, 10 of the 14 are from D2. That might be why D2 is harder to WIN, but as far as placing, D1 is much harder. Good luck as we see it all unfold in two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb56 Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 BOTW, I would agree except that Manley (from what I've heard) is going 52, which would bump him with Nick and I think Nick is better. That would bump Scott to 60 and squeeze Bon in at 45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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