palmetto6 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 How about James Banker from MBA for top defenseman? While Jackson has 6 take aways and 16 loose balls, Banker has 24 take aways and 26 loose balls. Those stats seem pretty lopsided so I wouldn't be saying Jackson is the hands down best defender in the state. McCallie's info on statsdepot has only been updated through their gilman game so Jackson has those stats for 4 games, while banker's numbers are for 10 games. On a stats per game basis, Jackson has 1.5 take aways per game, and 4 ground balls per game. Banker has 2.4 TA and 2.6 GB. Putting the two at a sort of stalemate by that point of reference. Though I have no doubt that Banker is a very good pole the numbers arent clear enough to establish him as better than the 1st team all state stud that the swab is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donttalkjustplay Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 ravenwood has a lot of depth. a few potential all american candidates in a few different positions. theres no certain star on the team because of the depth, so that in a way takes away from some of the recognition that many of the players should be recieving. but ravenwood could (depending on the rest of the season), potentially produce an all american. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michigan mauler Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 ravenwood has a lot of depth. a few potential all american candidates in a few different positions. theres no certain star on the team because of the depth, so that in a way takes away from some of the recognition that many of the players should be recieving. but ravenwood could (depending on the rest of the season), potentially produce an all american. neat, perhaps you could give us a name or two? seriously, the suspense is killing me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtwin Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 McCallie's info on statsdepot has only been updated through their gilman game so Jackson has those stats for 4 games, while banker's numbers are for 10 games. On a stats per game basis, Jackson has 1.5 take aways per game, and 4 ground balls per game. Banker has 2.4 TA and 2.6 GB. Putting the two at a sort of stalemate by that point of reference. Though I have no doubt that Banker is a very good pole the numbers arent clear enough to establish him as better than the 1st team all state stud that the swab is. I tend to agree with you on the stats here. There's a lot of issues there ranging from students keeping track of the stats and their knowledge of what really constitutes a take away, to level of competition, to what style of defense and supporting cast the player is a part of. Stats are certainly a supporting criteria that should be taken into consideration, but you kind of have to take them with a grain of salt. When I think of an all-american defenseman, I think of a player who can handle the ball and check well, but it is usually someone who significantly alters the opposing offensive unit. It's kind of an intangible, but when you see it, you know it. Having said that, I think Banker should certainly garner some attention for the honor. He's the anchor on MBA's squad. I've also never seen Tom Jackson play, but from everything I've heard, he's the defenseman to beat for the honor. Then again, could there be two poles to win the honor? I think Cahill has done a good job of putting his name at the top of the list so far this year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightUpLaxin Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 I agree with you there Redtwin. But if you are talking about stopping the opposing players, then there is no way Tom Jackson can be beaten for this honor. As a junior last year he shut down players such as Dan Gibson (Twice), Chris Cahill, and Tommy Dallisandro (Charlotte CD). He has yet to find an attackman that is too much for him, and has continued this pattern so far throughout his senior year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerpro1 Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Jackson in national event McCallie’s Tom Jackson has been selected as the Tennessee representative to the national high school senior lacrosse showcase in St. Louis. The best 12 th-graders in the nation are brought in to compete in the all-star tournament June 23-25. Jackson is a defensive player for the two-time defending state champion Blue Tornado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtwin Posted April 21, 2006 Report Share Posted April 21, 2006 Jackson in national event McCallie’s Tom Jackson has been selected as the Tennessee representative to the national high school senior lacrosse showcase in St. Louis. The best 12 th-graders in the nation are brought in to compete in the all-star tournament June 23-25. Jackson is a defensive player for the two-time defending state champion Blue Tornado. That's quite an accomplishment. Is that the same thing as the former North/South all-star game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy18 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 That's quite an accomplishment. Is that the same thing as the former North/South all-star game? you mean the north/north game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lax32 Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 The thing that has made me angry in the past is that all americans are picked because of stats. McCallie has many great players, three who could be all americans but they do not have the stats because the team isnt focused around one player. Cahill might have the stats but he doesnt have talent like Austin Colpini or David Hughes. Im not saying that he isnt a great player but i just dont think that his talent can match these two offensive players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtwin Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 I'll agree with you that stats can be overemphasized. I will also admit that I haven't seen either player you mention play, although I hope to this weekend. I would be surprised to see an offensive player in TN who is better than Cahill, but it is always possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerpro1 Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 Other major factor driving offensive stats is quality of opponents. It's analogous to ridiculus soccer scoring stats established against nonentities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direwolf44 Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 I might go so far as to say that david hughes, austin colpini, and chase hayes are as good or better than cahill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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