Pacman gone for the entire 2007 season.

[Purple & Gold Standard]

QUOTE(fromthetop2 @ May 11 2007 - 09:53 AM) 826457209[/snapback]It will be real interesting to see how Roger deals with this appeal. Like David Stern, he is appointing himself judge and chief high executioner. Don't get me wrong, it is not a bad setup. Only one person is held accountable, and only he has to worry about the flack.

 

The NFLPA is nowhere to be found on this appeal, and strangely no players- teammates or otherwise- are claiming this punishment is overthetop.

 

If I were Jones' handlers (is there such an animal), I would keep him in a monestary the night before, and have pages upon pages of examples of how he has changed.

 

I think his strip club episode the night before his first meeting was indicative of how he viewed his meeting. I think Goodell scared the beejeezus out of him during the meeting, and showed how Goodell will determine his future.

 

Pac is a study in contradiction. Those I've talked to who have engaged him one-on- one say he is gracious and friendly. Get a litttle booze in him, put him with his posse, he turns into Mr. Hip-Hop Hyde.

 

Goddell scared him so much that last week Pac was pulled over in Nashville and just happened to driving without a license......I thought he was going back to West Virginia and get some more schooling?!?.....He couldn't even make it to his appeal without another incident with authorities.....

 

Another story of a messed up athlete...Ricky Williams was to become eligible for reinstatement to the league,but that will now have to wait until September,because he FAILED ANOTHER test for pot in April.......

[muffin]

Puff.puff Williams.

[montague1]

QUOTE(backinthaoc @ May 12 2007 - 06:01 AM) 826457820[/snapback]Another story of a messed up athlete...Ricky Williams was to become eligible for reinstatement to the league,but that will now have to wait until September,because he FAILED ANOTHER test for pot in April.......

 

 

The NFL checked him relentlessly for a year, and he stayed clean. Right when its time for reinstatement to the league he fails one. Kind of makes me think that he done it on purpose. He's said before that he done drugs to get out of the league. If a person can go a year without smoking weed, then he is past his marijuana problems.

[2priceless]

QUOTE(backinthaoc @ May 12 2007 - 06:01 AM) 826457820[/snapback]Goddell scared him so much that last week Pac was pulled over in Nashville and just happened to driving without a license......I thought he was going back to West Virginia and get some more schooling?!?.....He couldn't even make it to his appeal without another incident with authorities.....

 

Another story of a messed up athlete...Ricky Williams was to become eligible for reinstatement to the league,but that will now have to wait until September,because he FAILED ANOTHER test for pot in April.......

 

 

Guess he was on already on spring break? hahaah

[Gerry Bertier]

QUOTE(montague1 @ May 12 2007 - 08:28 AM) 826457880[/snapback]The NFL checked him relentlessly for a year, and he stayed clean. Right when its time for reinstatement to the league he fails one. Kind of makes me think that he done it on purpose. He's said before that he done drugs to get out of the league. If a person can go a year without smoking weed, then he is past his marijuana problems.

 

 

I don't think he has an addiction to marijuana, I think he just enjoys that lifestyle. He has said he doesn't love playing football and the only reason he came back to the Dolphins was to avoid money problems. Ricky rather be smoking the hippie lettuce with Lenny Kravitz than getting his body beaten up and ending up like Earl Campbell.

[montague1]

QUOTE(Gerry Bertier @ May 12 2007 - 10:52 AM) 826457940[/snapback]I don't think he has an addiction to marijuana, I think he just enjoys that lifestyle. He has said he doesn't love playing football and the only reason he came back to the Dolphins was to avoid money problems. Ricky rather be smoking the hippie lettuce with Lenny Kravitz than getting his body beaten up and ending up like Earl Campbell.

 

 

I don't think there is any such thing as a marijuana addiction. People that smoke weed do it because they love to get high.

[Gerry Bertier]

QUOTE(montague1 @ May 12 2007 - 12:35 PM) 826457982[/snapback]I don't think there is any such thing as a marijuana addiction. People that smoke weed do it because they love to get high.

 

 

I disagree with you there. If you have been around someone addicted to alcohol, drugs or anything else. You will soon realize that there addiction is real. One of the reasons people become addicted to drugs and such is to escape the problems of their life. That high you speak of helps them escape there shortcomings and failures. So yes I think there is such thing as addiction just not in the case of Ricky.

[montague1]

QUOTE(Gerry Bertier @ May 12 2007 - 03:15 PM) 826458048[/snapback]I disagree with you there. If you have been around someone addicted to alcohol, drugs or anything else. You will soon realize that there addiction is real. One of the reasons people become addicted to drugs and such is to escape the problems of their life. That high you speak of helps them escape there shortcomings and failures. So yes I think there is such thing as addiction just not in the case of Ricky.

 

 

You can look up the research or you can take my word for it, marijuana is not addictive.

 

Alcohol is addictive, cigarettes are addictive, crack, cocaine, and codine are all addictive. Weed is not. A person's body craves those things if they stop using them. So much so that detox is sometimes deadly. Thats not the case with weed. Weed smokers just love getting high. They might want a joint, but their body doesn't crave it. Trust me, I know more about that life than you will ever know.

[Gerry Bertier]

QUOTE(montague1 @ May 12 2007 - 09:37 PM) 826458217[/snapback]You can look up the research or you can take my word for it, marijuana is not addictive.

 

Alcohol is addictive, cigarettes are addictive, crack, cocaine, and codine are all addictive. Weed is not. A person's body craves those things if they stop using them. So much so that detox is sometimes deadly. Thats not the case with weed. Weed smokers just love getting high. They might want a joint, but their body doesn't crave it. Trust me, I know more about that life than you will ever know.

 

 

In 1995, 165,000 people going into drug treatment programs used marijuana as their primary drug.

 

Addictive Potential

 

Long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they abuse the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop abusing the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety32. They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug33. This is straight from the NIDA.

 

Also I love how you assume that you know more about the subject than me. Trust me I have been exposed to the world of drug and alcohol addiction be it that my girlfriends parents help run a recovery program and her dad is a recovering drug and alcohol addict. So maybe you need not assume you know more than others.

[wingman10]

The commish required pacman to start counseling...pacman missed his first one.

[montague1]

QUOTE(Gerry Bertier @ May 13 2007 - 12:08 AM) 826458284[/snapback]Also I love how you assume that you know more about the subject than me. Trust me I have been exposed to the world of drug and alcohol addiction be it that my girlfriends parents help run a recovery program and her dad is a recovering drug and alcohol addict. So maybe you need not assume you know more than others.

 

 

Once again, you are right nd I am wrong Gerry. What can I say. Marijuana is addictive. Just less addictive than caffeine.

 

Addictiveness of Six Commonly Used Drugs

 

Health officials were asked to put aside social as well as economic pressures such as drug availability or acceptability and to evaluate the inherent addictive potential of the following six drugs.

Relative Addictiveness of Common Drugs

 

(100=Most Addictive; 0=Least)

Drug

 

Rating

 

Nicotine 99

 

Alcohol 81

 

Heroin 80

 

Cocaine (Nasal) 71

 

Caffeine 70

 

Marijuana 22

 

Conclusion:

 

(1) The most addictive drug, nicotine, is not only not scheduled, it can be purchased without a prescription by anyone over the age of 18.

 

(2) Cocaine is about as addictive as coffee or tea's caffeine.

 

(3) Alcohol is about as addictive as heroin.

Source Data:

 

Reformatted from the book The Chemistry of Mind-Altering Drugs by Daniel M. Perrine, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Chemistry at Loyola College, Baltimore, Maryland. Published by the American Chemical Society, Washington D.C., 1997.*

 

"Hooked: Why Isn't Everyone an Addict?" by Deborah Franklin, In Health magazine, volume 4, number 6, pp. 38-52, November/December 1990.

[ERA]

QUOTE(Gerry Bertier @ May 13 2007 - 12:08 AM) 826458284[/snapback]In 1995, 165,000 people going into drug treatment programs used marijuana as their primary drug.

 

Addictive Potential

 

Long-term marijuana abuse can lead to addiction for some people; that is, they abuse the drug compulsively even though it interferes with family, school, work, and recreational activities. Drug craving and withdrawal symptoms can make it hard for long-term marijuana smokers to stop abusing the drug. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeplessness, and anxiety32. They also display increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately one week after the last use of the drug33. This is straight from the NIDA.

 

Also I love how you assume that you know more about the subject than me. Trust me I have been exposed to the world of drug and alcohol addiction be it that my girlfriends parents help run a recovery program and her dad is a recovering drug and alcohol addict. So maybe you need not assume you know more than others.

 

Good post Gerry!