State Pairings

[woodeng]

Now, woodeng, I am with you but with one major difference.

 

With the merit system, it shouldn't matter if the school is public or private. It shouldn't be a "promotion and relegation system for the A/AA private schools". It should be what ever school has success or failure. This way, with three divisions in Division 1, you might actually have a AAA sized public school in the lowest division, because they have a weak soccer program, yet a A sized public school in the top division, because they have a strong class coming through. While that might be rare, it could be possible.

 

Sounds good to me too! Schools could ask for special dispensation when they lose alot of seniors or even move up when they have a really good team and want to play in a higher division. Would mean a level playing field for all, private, public, weak programs, strong programs, no club players, loads of clib players.

[VolunteerGeneral]

Complaining no...Only stating a Fact.

 

 

well your point is moot in terms of discussions on this board since you can`t regulate competitions depending on which schools have funds and which schools don`t. Well that sounded harsh...didn`t mean for it to sound like I was being overly critical of your point. It`s just that some folks that get on here think that`s a reason to split public and private schools.

[MVM]

well your point is moot in terms of discussions on this board since you can`t regulate competitions depending on which schools have funds and which schools don`t. Well that sounded harsh...didn`t mean for it to sound like I was being overly critical of your point. It`s just that some folks that get on here think that`s a reason to split public and private schools.

 

Well Volunteer in my previous posts I've explained myself. And to be honest, I don't have a dog in this hunt as my loyalty is to a AAA school. But I find it very unfair to the public schools in A/AA when it comes to HS soccer. Just like I find it unfair to the some of Private schools when it comes to F'ball. But this started as a soccer post so I have directed my comments with soccer in mind.

 

When every team in A/AA state finals are private something not fair. When 10 of the top 11 best teams in A/AA are private something not fair. I know the privates like that easy road to state, perhaps if I was in their shoes I might like it too, but that does'nt make it fair.

 

And if your public and don't mind the privates winning every year with their feeder select teams ( That many A/AA & AAA teams don't have access to or funds for) than don't worry you'll have alot of time to make your post on Coacht.

[schsdad02]

TSSAA has got to see that each sport is different. I think we all agree that not including soccer in the "50% limit travel player" ruling was a good thing. I also think we all agree that there are huge differences in competition levels in every classification across the state. Where we disagree the most is the whole "fairness" issue. High School soccer is the only place where soccer championships are not decided by your level of play, but rather the size of your school (or perceived/adjusted size of your school according to TSSAA).

 

I disagree with some on here that have posted there should only be one State champion, because more than one promotes a socialistic attitude that should be feared and is causing the downfall of our nation. Have they missed the point that this is a GAME, not politics? Select soccer has Division 1,2 and 3 teams that all compete each year for a state championship. I have read lots of references to select soccer, but have not seen any complaints about TSSA having three champions every year. (And for you "elitists" out there, I don't think anyone disagrees that the Division 1 winners are the best in the state.)

 

So the way I see it, TSSAA should have three divisions (1,2, 3 would be my suggestion--lol). Each school would choose the division in which they feel they are best qualified to compete. That should end this stupid Private v Public debate since now it is the school's choice and what would and should matter is which school has the best players and coaching.

[BigG]

(And for you "elitists" out there, I don't think anyone disagrees that the Division 1 winners are the best in the state.)

 

 

I think you could argue from year to year. There are times that I think that the Division 2 champions have been the best.

[schsdad02]

I think you could argue from year to year. There are times that I think that the Division 2 champions have been the best.

 

You are right. I think the Strikers 93/94 team that won the girls D2 championship last Spring could easily compete with the 93 D1 teams for the championship. I would guess that the only reason they did not compete at the D1 level is because they are a combined 93/94 team.

 

But does that make my idea less valid? Probably! Knew I should have stayed out of it! But it is such good reading.

[BigG]

You are right. I think the Strikers 93/94 team that won the girls D2 championship last Spring could easily compete with the 93 D1 teams for the championship. I would guess that the only reason they did not compete at the D1 level is because they are a combined 93/94 team.

 

But does that make my idea less valid? Probably! Knew I should have stayed out of it! But it is such good reading.

 

Sorry, I was actually referring to Division 2 highschool teams (Christian Brothers, BGA, St. Agnes). My mistake.

[schsdad02]

Sorry, I was actually referring to Division 2 highschool teams (Christian Brothers, BGA, St. Agnes). My mistake.

 

Don't be sorry, puts me back on the right track. Those schools would choose to be Division 1 in the new world of high school soccer and everyone would then have to agree that they are the best.

[BigG]

Don't be sorry, puts me back on the right track. Those schools would choose to be Division 1 in the new world of high school soccer and everyone would then have to agree that they are the best.

 

Just to clarify that Division 2 in highschool soccer does not mean a "lesser" division like it does in club. Division 2 in highschool soccer just signifies that those schools are able to have athletes that receive financial aid. It has nothing to do with the quality or success of their program.

[joycepmiller]

And so do the top AAA (Public) school programs....

[joycepmiller]

Some assumptions are being made here on behalf of all private schools - one is that all parents have alot of money to keep spending after the tuition bill is paid. That is not true - in West Tennessee, it takes alot of fundraising and sacrifice for our girls to play club soccer. Another assumption being made is that private school coaches are paid more than public school coaches. It doesn't seem right to make this an issue about public vs private. Just look at how the private schools from West TN fared against the private schools from the larger metropolitan areas.

[schsdad02]

Just to clarify that Division 2 in highschool soccer does not mean a "lesser" division like it does in club. Division 2 in highschool soccer just signifies that those schools are able to have athletes that receive financial aid. It has nothing to do with the quality or success of their program.

 

I was not suggesting that it was currently a "lesser" division. I was looking to the "new world" of high school soccer. Where teams pick division 1, 2 or 3--or heck maybe even 4. Then the best teams would choose division 1 and there would be no issue of public, private, scholarship, etc.