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Did I just see Gibbs get into the playoffs at 3-7? That's just ridicuolus. I think I saw about 5 or 6 4-6 teams that got in the state playoffs. Which leads me to my question; why do so many teams get in the state playoffs? If thier is a 7 or 8 team reigon, and 4 teams make it in(or 3 in 2A), that's 40%-55% of one reigon, and if you have 7 or 8 reigons in a classification, that would mean that over half the teams make it in.

 

They need to have 16 teams for Division 1 and 4 teams make it for Division 2. Then for a kick, put the champions of each class in Div. 1 against each other in a 5 team tourney, with the bye rotating through the divisions year after year. Also have the D2 I and II face off for the D2 state champions.

 

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Did I just see Gibbs get into the playoffs at 3-7? That's just ridicuolus. I think I saw about 5 or 6 4-6 teams that got in the state playoffs. Which leads me to my question; why do so many teams get in the state playoffs? If thier is a 7 or 8 team reigon, and 4 teams make it in(or 3 in 2A), that's 40%-55% of one reigon, and if you have 7 or 8 reigons in a classification, that would mean that over half the teams make it in.

 

They need to have 16 teams for Division 1 and 4 teams make it for Division 2. Then for a kick, put the champions of each class in Div. 1 against each other in a 5 team tourney, with the bye rotating through the divisions year after year. Also have the D2 I and II face off for the D2 state champions.

 

Just my thoughts

 

Will never happen for one reason. Money. The TSSAA gets 50% of the gate for each playoff game played. If they cut the teams in half they cut their take in half. Also some regions are tougher than others. A team with 5 wins in one region could not make it in and be better than a team with more wins in a weaker region. You can't always go by just the record.

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How about a 1-9 Frayser team making the playoffs in 3A? I think that they should go with the champion and runner-up in each district and award bowl games to the other deserving teams. Then the T$$AA can make gates and not make a mockery of the playoffs. Not to mention they could attach corporate sponsorships to the games to add to the payday.

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How about a 1-9 Frayser team making the playoffs in 3A? I think that they should go with the champion and runner-up in each district and award bowl games to the other deserving teams. Then the T$$AA can make gates and not make a mockery of the playoffs. Not to mention they could attach corporate sponsorships to the games to add to the payday.

 

 

Bingo!!!!!!!!! If the TSSAA needs the money they could take 50% of the gate receipts from the bowl games.

 

Make it where a team must win 7 games to become bowl eligible.

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Then on the other side of the equation, you have some regions that have some pretty good teams eliminated from the playoffs because only four can go. Some regions are weak ... some are strong. It all washes out. I love the playoff system just the way it is. Why? Because there is no room for bias to enter into the system. A power ranking system has room for bias to enter. I DON'T CARE HOW IT IS SET UP! I love this system. The top seeds who draw thos 3-7, 2-8 teams will play at home and advance to the 2nd round. It is the privilege of winning their region. Any system where POEPLE have to decide WHO gets in and WHO doesn't is flawed. This system is set ... it runs on auto pilot. AND NO ONE FEELS CHEATED.

 

No other system can say that. Someone gets cheated in another system. There is some regional bias ... East TN or Middle TN or West TN. Not in this system. I'll take 1-9 and 2-8, and 3-7 teams if it INSURES no bias and no cheating and no PERCEPTION of bias. It all washes out in the end.

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Then on the other side of the equation, you have some regions that have some pretty good teams eliminated from the playoffs because only four can go. Some regions are weak ... some are strong. It all washes out. I love the playoff system just the way it is. Why? Because there is no room for bias to enter into the system. A power ranking system has room for bias to enter. I DON'T CARE HOW IT IS SET UP! I love this system. The top seeds who draw thos 3-7, 2-8 teams will play at home and advance to the 2nd round. It is the privilege of winning their region. Any system where POEPLE have to decide WHO gets in and WHO doesn't is flawed. This system is set ... it runs on auto pilot. AND NO ONE FEELS CHEATED.

 

No other system can say that. Someone gets cheated in another system. There is some regional bias ... East TN or Middle TN or West TN. Not in this system. I'll take 1-9 and 2-8, and 3-7 teams if it INSURES no bias and no cheating and no PERCEPTION of bias. It all washes out in the end.

 

This is very true, however, i don't feel that a team that can't finish first or second IN THEIR ON REGION, is deserving of a chance to prove they are first or second IN THE STATE. The high school football season is a war of attrition. Those ELITE teams that get through the season with the very most success should continue. Those GOOD teams should also be rewarded, but put them in a situation where they can compete, and give them a fifty percenty chance of ending their career on a good note with a bowl game. What is lost in the translation is many of those seniors of those "deserving" three and four seeds get taken to the woodshed in their final high school game. But hey THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. All successful teams SHOULDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. But they do deserve to prolong their high school career with a more evenly tested bowl game. "Take two and the rest can go bowling", now that's a situation that everyone wins.

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This is very true, however, i don't feel that a team that can't finish first or second IN THEIR ON REGION, is deserving of a chance to prove they are first or second IN THE STATE. The high school football season is a war of attrition. Those ELITE teams that get through the season with the very most success should continue. Those GOOD teams should also be rewarded, but put them in a situation where they can compete, and give them a fifty percenty chance of ending their career on a good note with a bowl game. What is lost in the translation is many of those seniors of those "deserving" three and four seeds get taken to the woodshed in their final high school game. But hey THEY MADE THE PLAYOFFS. All successful teams SHOULDN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. But they do deserve to prolong their high school career with a more evenly tested bowl game. "Take two and the rest can go bowling", now that's a situation that everyone wins.

 

 

Really? ... Go ask Ravenwood if they agree. They were last years 5A runner-up.

 

Oh yeah ... they were also a 4th seed. They wouldn't have had that chance with only the top two seed teams scenerio.

 

Top four is best.

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Really? ... Go ask Ravenwood if they agree. They were last years 5A runner-up.

 

Oh yeah ... they were also a 4th seed. They wouldn't have had that chance with only the top two seed teams scenerio.

 

Top four is best.

 

Also you could throw LA a few years ago, yeah teams can get on rolls and things can happen. However, I still don't think that a team that performs average during the season deserves the shot. I'll bet you for every LA or Ravenwood 200 high school teams get demoralized in the first round just because they don't stack up. Sure both are good stories but they are the exception not the rule. You know I could get lucky and hit a pinch hit homer off of Roger Clemens, but I bet I don't get a contract anytime soon. Those teams didn't get lucky, believe me I pulled hard for both of them, but do you kinda get the idea?

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Also you could throw LA a few years ago, yeah teams can get on rolls and things can happen. However, I still don't think that a team that performs average during the season deserves the shot. I'll bet you for every LA or Ravenwood 200 high school teams get demoralized in the first round just because they don't stack up. Sure both are good stories but they are the exception not the rule. You know I could get lucky and hit a pinch hit homer off of Roger Clemens, but I bet I don't get a contract anytime soon. Those teams didn't get lucky, believe me I pulled hard for both of them, but do you kinda get the idea?

 

 

Thank you for that scenerio ... I'll just use that example. You are right ... you could get lucky and hit a pinch hit homer off of Roger Clemens ... but could you do that four games in a row to get to the World Series? You already know the answer to that. Point being ... You look at their record and declare that they are average ... winning four games in a row to get to the tittle game states otherwise. You may be lucky and win one game ... but you don't win four games in a row ... in a playoff format where each round pits tougher teams against tougher teams with luck. No ... it's not the norm ... but there quality 4 seeds who deserve a shot.

 

Four seeds are best.

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Thank you for that scenerio ... I'll just use that example. You are right ... you could get lucky and hit a pinch hit homer off of Roger Clemens ... but could you do that four games in a row to get to the World Series? You already know the answer to that. Point being ... You look at their record and declare that they are average ... winning four games in a row to get to the tittle game states otherwise. You may be lucky and win one game ... but you don't win four games in a row ... in a playoff format where each round pits tougher teams against tougher teams with luck. No ... it's not the norm ... but there quality 4 seeds who deserve a shot.

 

Four seeds are best.

 

not to mention that in ravenwoods case, they're 4 losses were early in the season. As the season went on, they improved. So to just take the top 2, would have kept one of the better teams out of the playoffs at a time when they were playing their best ball.

 

The teams that get beat badly, I think, expect to lose. They're expectation is to play hard, have fun a,d take home the satisfaction that they were in the playoffs instead of starting basketball season. I don't see it as a bad thing for a weaker team to get into a no win situation like that, because they can find positives in their season, even though they get beat in that last game.

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I will never understand how a team (or several in this case) can make the playoffs with losing records. The TSSAA needs to knock down the playoff rounds, back to three, like in the good ole days. If it is money they want, up the price of admission a couple of bucks. Yes, I know it is already expensive, but think how much the TSSAA would save in travel expenses for these teams. They would still make a bundle.

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