3A - how do these brackets look - Pod 2 is tough!

[davidlimbaugh]

How do these 3A brackets look?

 

 

Pod 1

1) Elizabethton (D1) 1338 (8-2)

2) Gatlinburg-Pittman (D3) 1297 (9-1)

3) Sullivan North (D1) 1096 (8-2)

4) Johnson County (D1) 873 (5-5)

5) Cumberland Gap (D2) 860 (5-5)

6) West Greene (D2) 855 (7-3)

7) South Greene (D2) 821 (5-5)

8) Happy Valley (D1) 785 (5-4)

 

 

Pod 2

1) Alcoa (D4) 1644 (10-0)

2) CAK (D4) 1392 (9-1)

3) Polk County (D5) 1338 (10-0)

4) Loudon (D4) 1325 (8-2)

5) Austin-East (D3) 1255 (7-3)

6) McMinn Central (D5) 1148 (7-3)

7) Tyner (D6) 1103 (6-4)

8) Kingston (D4) 982 (5-5)

 

Pod 3

1) Goodpasture (D9) 1371 (8-2)

2) York Institute (D8) 1113 (7-3)

3) Smith County (D8) 1049 (7-3)

4) Cannon County (D8) 1010 (6-4)

5) Pearl Cohn (D10) 958 (5-5)

6) Bledsoe County (D7) 922 (8-2)

7) Sequatchie County (D7) 893 (6-4)

8) East Literature (D10) 881 (5-5)

 

 

Pod 4

1) Milan (D13) 1348 (10-0)

2) Manassas (15) 1307 (9-1)

3) Camden (D11) 1171 (9-1)

4) Westview (D13) 1097 (6-4)

5) Fairview (D12) 1000 (6-4)

6) Harpeth (D11) 914 (5-5)

7) Jackson Central-Merry (D14) 844 (4-6)

8) Stewart County (D11) 807 (6-4)

 

 

Pod 1

 

5) Cumberland Gap (D2) 860 (5-5)

4) Johnson County (D1) 873 (5-5)

 

7) South Greene (D2) 821 (5-5) - #8 was in same district

1) Elizabethton (D1) 1338 (8-2)

 

8) Happy Valley (D1) 785 (5-4)

2) Gatlinburg-Pittman (D3) 1297 (9-1)

 

6) West Greene (D2) 855 (7-3)

3) Sullivan North (D1) 1096 (8-2)

 

 

Pod 2

 

5) Austin-East (D3) 1255 (7-3)

4) Loudon (D4) 1325 (8-2)

 

6) McMinn Central (D5) 1148 (7-3) - #8 and #7 in same district

1) Alcoa (D4) 1644 (10-0)

 

7) Tyner (D6) 1103 (6-4)

2) CAK (D4) 1392 (9-1)

 

8) Kingston (D4) 982 (5-5)

3) Polk County (D5) 1338 (10-0)

 

 

Pod 3

 

5) Pearl Cohn (D10) 958 (5-5)

4) Cannon County (D8) 1010 (6-4)

 

8) East Literature (D10) 881 (5-5)

1) Goodpasture (D9) 1371 (8-2)

 

7) Sequatchie County (D7) 893 (6-4)

2) York Institute (D8) 1113 (7-3)

 

6) Bledsoe County (D7) 922 (8-2)

3) Smith County (D8) 1049 (7-3)

 

 

Pod 4

 

6) Harpeth (D11) 914 (5-5)

4) Westview (D13) 1097 (6-4)

 

8) Stewart County (D11) 807 (6-4)

1) Milan (D13) 1348 (10-0)

 

7) Jackson Central-Merry (D14) 844 (4-6)

2) Manassas (15) 1307 (9-1)

 

5) Fairview (D12) 1000 (6-4) - #6 in same district

3) Camden (D11) 1171 (9-1)

 

 

I have these in that didn't make it this year

 

South Green (5-5)

East Literature (5-5)

Jackson Central-Merry (4-6)

 

Who is in I have out is

 

Grundy Co (5-5)

Oakhaven (5-5)

Lewis Co (3-7)

 

 

Raw Numbers

 

1 Alcoa 3A 1644 10 0 10 0

2 CAK 3A 1392 9 1 9 1

3 Goodpasture 3A 1371 8 2 8 2

4 Milan 3A 1348 10 0 10 0

5 Elizabethton 3A 1338 8 2 8 2

6 Polk County 3A 1338 10 0 10 0

7 Loudon 3A 1325 8 2 8 2

8 Manassas 3A 1307 9 1 9 1

9 Gatlinburg-Pittman 3A 1297 9 1 9 1

10 Austin-East 3A 1255 7 3 7 3

11 Camden 3A 1171 9 1 9 1

12 McMinn Central 3A 1162 7 3 7

13 York Institute 3A 1113 7 3 7 3

14 Tyner 3A 1103 6 4 6 4

15 Westview 3A 1097 6 4 6 4

16 Sullivan North 3A 1096 8 2 8 2

17 Smith County 3A 1049 7 3 7 3

18 Cannon County 3A 1010 6 4 6 4

19 Fairview 3A 1000 6 4 6 4

20 Kingston 3A 982 5 5 5 5

21 Pearl Cohn 3A 958 5 5 5 5

23 Bledsoe County 3A 922 8 2 8 2

22 Sequatchie County 3A 921 6 4 6 4

24 Harpeth 3A 914 5 5 5 5

25 East Literature 3A 881 5 5 5 5

26 Johnson County 3A 873 5 5 5 5

27 Cumberland Gap 3A 860 5 5 5 5

28 West Greene 3A 855 7 3 7 3

29 Jackson Central-Merry 3A 844 4 6 4 6

30 South Greene 3A 821 5 5 5 5

31 Stewart County 3A 807 6 4 6 4

32 Happy Valley 3A 785 5 4 5 4

CPA 3A 746 3 7 3 7

Pigeon Forge 3A 730 4 6 4 6

Grundy County 3A 727 5 5 5 5

Hickman County 3A 721 4 6 4 6

Booker T. Washington 3A 720 3 7 3 7

Lewis County 3A 692 3 7 3 7

Waverly 3A 673 4 6 4 6

Oakhaven 3A 664 5 5 5 5

Howard 3A 653 2 8 2 8

Westmoreland 3A 619 2 8 2 8

East Hickman 3A 577 3 7 3 7

Unicoi County 3A 572 2 8 2 8

Sweetwater 3A 571 2 8 2 8

Cheatham County 3A 526 1 9 1 9

Memphis Northside 3A 500 2 7 2 7

Meigs County 3A 499 2 8 2 8

Chuckey-Doak 3A 462 2 8 2 8

Chattanooga Christian 3A 458 1 9 1 9

Upperman 3A 406 1 9 1 9

Gibson County 3A 388 0 10 0 10

Carver 3A 329 0 10 0 10

[OldSchoolCharger]

Pod 2 is definitely the toughest in the state... Favorite will come out of this bracket

[thedoctor23]

Pod 2 is definitely the toughest in the state... Favorite will come out of this bracket

 

I agree oldschoolcharger.... and even take it a step farther by saying that whoever does win this pod WILL WIN the state

[NavyChief]

How do these 3A brackets look?

 

 

Pod 4

 

6) Harpeth (D11) 914 (5-5)

4) Westview (D13) 1097 (6-4)

 

8) Stewart County (D11) 807 (6-4)

1) Milan (D13) 1348 (10-0)

 

7) Jackson Central-Merry (D14) 844 (4-6)

2) Manassas (15) 1307 (9-1)

 

5) Fairview (D12) 1000 (6-4) - #6 in same district

3) Camden (D11) 1171 (9-1)

 

Am I missing something? Is this a fantasy post? This is not how Pod 4 is slated currently...Camden played Lewis Co. and beat them 35-7 last Friday night....not Fairview.

[davidlimbaugh]

Am I missing something? Is this a fantasy post? This is not how Pod 4 is slated currently...Camden played Lewis Co. and beat them 35-7 last Friday night....not Fairview.

 

I am trying to come up with a system to seed teams fairly, with wins and losses and strength of schedule all coming into play.

 

Formula is simple

 

IF you WIN you get 100 + opponents' wins + (+ 20 for each class higher than you or - 20 for each class lower than you)

 

WIN OR LOSE you get 5 times the number of wins of your opponents

 

then WIN OR LOSE, if your opponent is your class or higher you get 2 times the number of wins of your opponent.

 

So the better teams you play and the higher class you play the better off you are....

[JuniorsDad]

Am I missing something? Is this a fantasy post? This is not how Pod 4 is slated currently...Camden played Lewis Co. and beat them 35-7 last Friday night....not Fairview.

 

I am trying to come up with a system to seed teams fairly, with wins and losses and strength of schedule all coming into play.

 

Formula is simple

 

IF you WIN you get 100 + opponents' wins + (+ 20 for each class higher than you or - 20 for each class lower than you)

 

WIN OR LOSE you get 5 times the number of wins of your opponents

 

then WIN OR LOSE, if your opponent is your class or higher you get 2 times the number of wins of your opponent.

 

So the better teams you play and the higher class you play the better off you are....

 

I played my HS football in Ohio, when we moved to East Tennessee I was surprised by the number of teams that made the playoffs. The system mentioned above is similar to what we worked through in the mid 80's. One season our Region champion was 10 and 0 and our second place team was 8 and 2...NEITHER team made the playoffs. It was ALL about numbers!!!! I'm not sure it was best way to put together playoff brackets, but we didn't have sub .500 teams making the post season.

[davidlimbaugh]

Am I missing something? Is this a fantasy post? This is not how Pod 4 is slated currently...Camden played Lewis Co. and beat them 35-7 last Friday night....not Fairview.

 

I am trying to come up with a system to seed teams fairly, with wins and losses and strength of schedule all coming into play.

 

Formula is simple

 

IF you WIN you get 100 + opponents' wins + (+ 20 for each class higher than you or - 20 for each class lower than you)

 

WIN OR LOSE you get 5 times the number of wins of your opponents

 

then WIN OR LOSE, if your opponent is your class or higher you get 2 times the number of wins of your opponent.

 

So the better teams you play and the higher class you play the better off you are....

 

I played my HS football in Ohio, when we moved to East Tennessee I was surprised by the number of teams that made the playoffs. The system mentioned above is similar to what we worked through in the mid 80's. One season our Region champion was 10 and 0 and our second place team was 8 and 2...NEITHER team made the playoffs. It was ALL about numbers!!!! I'm not sure it was best way to put together playoff brackets, but we didn't have sub .500 teams making the post season.

 

Under our current system a 6A team could schedule 1a out of district games to pad their overall record and there is no deterrent to doing so. Trying to change that...

[OnlineLC]

I really like this approach, especially as it discourages playing cup cake schedules so you can make the playoffs.

 

What I appreciate is the fact that with this scheme East Lit made the playoffs playing in a tough district with a 5-5 record. I have to admit I was not too impressed when I saw that they did not make it and Lewis County did with a 3-7 record.

[Antwan]

I really like this approach, especially as it discourages playing cup cake schedules so you can make the playoffs.

 

What I appreciate is the fact that with this scheme East Lit made the playoffs playing in a tough district with a 5-5 record. I have to admit I was not too impressed when I saw that they did not make it and Lewis County did with a 3-7 record.

 

I would have to agree. CPA and East Lit. were playoff caliber teams...for sure.

[oldchsman]

This could make 1a and 2a have a hard time of finding non-district games. Also: teams that have a smaller school as a rival that they may have played for 70 years have a disavantage like Smith co. and Gordonsville. With Gordonsville being a 1a team and Smith Co. a 3a. They are the only teams in the county and back in the 70's the school bd. made them play. Back then there where small and large classes. If you played in a smaller class you got no points. So Smith Co. didn't want to play Gordonsville but still the bd. made them. Even though it hurt Smith Co. change to get into the playoffs.

[OnlineLC]

This could make 1a and 2a have a hard time of finding non-district games. Also: teams that have a smaller school as a rival that they may have played for 70 years have a disavantage like Smith co. and Gordonsville. With Gordonsville being a 1a team and Smith Co. a 3a. They are the only teams in the county and back in the 70's the school bd. made them play. Back then there where small and large classes. If you played in a smaller class you got no points. So Smith Co. didn't want to play Gordonsville but still the bd. made them. Even though it hurt Smith Co. change to get into the playoffs.

 

In one sense the scheme allows you to play a lower classification if they have a good program. For instance if a 3A wanted to play South Pittsburg, a win gets you 100-40=60 but also gets you 5 times the wins that South Pitt has (5 times 9=45). Therefore you still get 105 points.

 

This is still good since you can play down provided you don't go seeking easy wins.

 

Maybe there could be one exception per season to allow for existing rivalries where you keep the 100 points if you win regardless of their classification..

[davidlimbaugh]

Lets compare #35 Grundy County (5-5) and #40 Oakhaven (5-5) with #29 Jackson Central-Merry (4-6) and last one on in #32 Happy Valley (5-4)

 

Grundy County (3A) (District 7) (5-5)

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Week 1) South Pittsburg (1A) (8-2) 0-41 40

Week 2) Sequatchie County (3A) (6-4) 0-23 42

Week 3) Oliver Springs (2A) (8-2) 40-21 128

Week 4) Marion County (2A) (6-4) 12-32 30

Week 5) Stone Memorial (4A) (3-7) 14-29 21

Week 6) Chattanooga Christian (3A) (1-9) 42-14 108

Week 7) Midway (1A) (2-8) 28-21 72

Week 8) Bledsoe County (3A) (8-2) 26-49 56

Week 9) Chattanooga Grace (2A) (1-9) 51-7 86

Week 10) Notre Dame (4A) (3-7) 21-7 144

 

Total Points 727

 

 

Oakhaven (3A) (District 16) (5-5)

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Week 1) Douglass (2A) (4-6) 14-15 20

Week 2) Hillcrest (4A) (4-6) 14-18 28

Week 3) Frayser (4A) (3-7) 12-16 21

Week 4) Booker T. Washington (3A) (3-7) 42-8 124

Week 5) Memphis Northside (3A) (2-7) 20-6 116

Week 6) Fairley (4A) (6-4) 8-27 42

Week 7) Westwood (2A) (3-7) 18-12 98

Week 8) Sheffield (4A) (7-3) 0-26 49

Week 9) MAHS (1A) (1-6) 32-6 66

Week 10) Carver (3A) (0-10) 28-0 100

 

Total Points 664

 

 

Jackson Central-Merry (3A) (District 14) (4-6)

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Week 0) Haywood County (4A) (4-6) 21-20 152

Week 1) Jackson Northside (5A) (7-3) 8-9 49

Week 2) Liberty Magnet (4A) (9-1) 0-41 63

Week 3) USJ (3A) (9-1) 0-21 63

Week 4) Jackson South Side (4A) (7-3) 0-15 49

Week 6) Bolivar Central (4A) (1-9) 28-0 128

Week 7) Chester County (4A) (5-5) 14-16 35

Week 8) Fayette Ware (4A) (0-10) 42-0 120

Week 9) McNairy Central (4A) (2-8) 31-8 136

Week 10) Lexington (4A) (7-3) 6-31 49

 

Total Points 844

 

 

Happy Valley (3A) (District 1) (5-4)

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Week 1) Unaka (2A) (5-5) 45-6 110

Week 2) Elizabethton (3A) (8-2) 13-41 56

Week 3) Clintwood VA (1A) (8-2) 6-29 40

Week 4) Unicoi County (3A) (2-8) 24-0 116

Week 5) Cloudland (1A) (3-7) 33-22 78

Week 6) Sullivan East (4A) (3-7) 28-14 144

Week 8) Sullivan North (3A) (8-2) 0-14 56

Week 9) Hampton (2A) (9-1) 20-30 45

Week 10) Johnson County (3A) (5-5) 14-6 140

 

Total Points 785

 

Grundy County played five teams that are a lower class then they are.

 

Oakhaven played three teams lower than they are. Two of their wins was against a 1A (1-6) team and a (0-10) 3A team. They only played two teams with winning records, losing both of those games.

 

Jackson Central-Merry played 9 of their 10 games against teams of a higher class than they are. Played five teams with winning records.

 

Happy Valley played six teams that were .500 or better.

 

Which two of the four teams above are more deserving to compete in the 3A post-season? My goal is to make sure you are worthy of being one of the top 32.