sweeptheleg Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm sorry I believe I may have been unclear. I was trying to say which sides champions had to go through tougher competition. Well that would vary from weight to weight. Considering d2 is generally tougher kids I would say d2. Now if you are saying which kids wrestle more people then it would be d1. Don't confuse more with tougher because its not the same. Most weights the studs aren't challenged until the semis and that goes for both divisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweeptheleg Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Obviously there are exceptions to the rule in both divisions. As a generalized statement I would say d1 s 6th placers would beat d2s more times than not . I'll do a little research and see what I come up with for this years crop of kids from 3-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattail1089 Posted February 24, 2013 Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 I've seen d2 state placers 3-6 getting pinned easily by guys who don't even qualify for d1 state. D2 has better 1st and 2nd placers then d1 but there is no argument that it is much harder to place in d1, not because there's more people but because of better competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dca44 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 This is the perfect score and has perfect wins except 182 would be closer and 195 would be really close could go either way.... I agree mostly. But Langford wins at 138, and heavyweight isnt even close. Bruno pins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getreal2005 Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Surprised it hasn't happened yet, here's my picks... 106- Murphy (Baylor) dec Navario (Bradley) D-1 (0) D-2 (3) 113- Oliver (CBHS) pin Debian (Cleveland) D-1 (0) D-2 (9) 120- Stevens (Soddy) dec Elsea (McCallie) D-1 (3) D-2 (9) 126- Gray (CBHS) dec Stevenson (Cleveland) D-1 (3) D-2 (12) 132- Hamilton (Cleveland) dec Connell (McCallie) D-1 (6) D-2 (12) 138- Olson (BGA) dec Langford (WV) D-1 (6) D-2 (15) 145- Marchetti (Father Ryan) dec Freeman (Ravenwood) D-1 (6) D-2 (18) 152- Baker (CBHS) major dec Dickerson (CC) D-1 (6) D-2 (22) 160- Popp (Baylor) dec Clark (Bradley) D-1 (6) D-2 (25) 170- Solomon (Maryville) dec Parker (Baylor) D-1 (9) D-2 (25) 182- Henry (Soddy) dec Hoodenpyle (McCallie) D-1 (12) D-2 (25) 195- Boykin (Riverdale) dec Garstin (MBA) D-1 (15) D-2 (25) 220- Satterfield (WB) dec Mason (BA) D-1 (18) D-2 (25) Hwt.- Reagen (Clarksville) pin Robertson (MBA) D-1 (24) D-2 (25) Closer than I thought actually. D-2 picks up wins early but D-1 picks up Bonus points that make it close. OW- Oliver (CBHS 113) Best Match- I say Satterfield (WB) in OT at 220. What do y'all think? I think your pick at 138 is a bit off. Olson is a good wrestler but dont think he'd come out on top. Marchetti would lose to Freeman for sure in my opinion. Mason would lose to Satterfield. I'd pick Mason to win by 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghouse Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I think your pick at 138 is a bit off. Olson is a good wrestler but dont think he'd come out on top. Marchetti would lose to Freeman for sure in my opinion. Mason would lose to Satterfield. I'd pick Mason to win by 2. You are aware that Marchetti actually beat Freeman in a dual early this year right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingGod Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I think your pick at 138 is a bit off. Olson is a good wrestler but dont think he'd come out on top. Marchetti would lose to Freeman for sure in my opinion. Mason would lose to Satterfield. I'd pick Mason to win by 2. Marchetti already beat Freeman this year. Looking at the competition that Olson and Langford had this year, it's not close, the top 3 d2 138 take the same spots d1, the only difference maybe being Langford vs Sutherland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbg Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 The true test may be to look at past history as to which division has the most wrestlers qualify for the NCAA Tournament and also become AA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear cat brown Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Well that would vary from weight to weight. Considering d2 is generally tougher kids I would say d2. Now if you are saying which kids wrestle more people then it would be d1. Don't confuse more with tougher because its not the same. Most weights the studs aren't challenged until the semis and that goes for both divisions. I don't think so Willis..... If you don't have your a game in the Man's div, you get your arse handed to you in the 2nd round... No A game in the DII, you tech fall your opponent ..... Bcb iii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweeptheleg Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I don't think so Willis..... If you don't have your a game in the Man's div, you get your arse handed to you in the 2nd round... No A game in the DII, you tech fall your opponent ..... Bcb iii That means the studs in the mans division arent quite as good as the studs in d2 I guess. I would be willing to bet none of the d2 champs and runner ups would get beat in the second round of the di tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reliable Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I agree, in many weights the top 2 or 3 D2 were as strong or stronger than the D1 top 2 or 3, but there certainly isn't the depth of quality beyond the medalists. D1 has more kids, certainly the depth gives them more average and better than average wrestlers, while D2 has a talent drop after a few...but not just the top 2...D2 3rd place 106 medalist Cornell beat D1 106 champ Navarro in the semis of the Soddy Invitational earlier this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrollWrestling Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I don't think so Willis..... If you don't have your a game in the Man's div, you get your arse handed to you in the 2nd round... No A game in the DII, you tech fall your opponent ..... Bcb iii Surely you missed the Walthall loss at 170 in the semifinals... He came without his A game and he paid dearly for it. Your argument holds no water in actual practice, since, according to your theory, Walthall should still have tech-falled his opponent. Your argument is null and void, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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