MOST UNDERATED! MEMPHIS EAST

[bottomwriter]

Hey bottomdweller....are you sure about your statement? Are you sure??? Give us some proof or I will call you out for what you are. You have none, obviously. Yes...a rogue official and he didn't make the incorrect call because there was not a call to make. It was obvious what his objective was. Proof was presented several times through video and pictorial. Pretty embarrassing for the TSSAA and the officials union. Regardless, it was what it was. Now give us some proof bottomdweller.

Did I miss the mea culpa (that's Latin) from the TSSAA and the officials union johnny reb? The cute play on my handle. is that supposed to be some type of east TN slight?

[PackOfWolves]

If numbers were that big a factor East shouldn't be as good as they are now. If I'm not mistaken their numbers are lower than they have been in the past seasons when they haven't been as successful. They definitely aren't better now because they have less students.

I said it is one factor, not the only one. We have more quality athletes now than we did a few years ago. This is a result of going to middle school games and scouting talent. The coaches recruited the smart ones that qualified for the Optional Program. If they just relied on what came to the school, it wouldn't be pretty right now. At the end of the day, you do have to have some talent, coaching alone is not enough. Yes, we have had some exceptional players through the years, but those players needed some more help. So, numbers do help you, statistically, obtain a greater number of quality athletes. Not all cases, but most. That is not say that coaching is not a huge factor, because it is. It is the greatest factor in my opinion, but it sure does help when you have a lot of quality athletes on your team.

[coach10ac]

I did not say we had kids that would not start at WH, I stated that none of our JV players would start at WH. I saw your JV and there were a lot of them that would start at Mitchell.

[coach10ac]

Oh ok see where you said that now. .. but some of our JV players are starters on varsity... we play alot of soph and juniors.... but some don't play jv because they get alot of reps on varsity.

[kwc]

I'm going to weigh in on the numbers issue. Both sides make valid points. I agree with BHS and Havengrad04, just because you have numbers doesn't equate to winning against good competition. eastMustang and Galilee have valid points as well, when you have more numbers it give you a better advantage then those with fewer numbers. Especially when it come to attrition.

 

Below are the schools that are currently selected to play in next year's Super 32 6A classification with their current attendance numbers and current record in football.

 

6A

 

White Station ... 2289 attending (3-5)

Collierville ... 2136 attending (5-2)

Arlington ... 2044 attending (6-2)

Houston ... 1937 attending (7-0)

Cordova ... 1911 attending (3-4)

Germantown ... 1900 attending (2-6)

Whitehaven ... 1838 attending (6-0)

Bartlett ... 1818 attending (3-4)

 

The following are the classifications that will based upon the new format per attendance and geography after the Super 32 have been removed from the pool.

 

5A

 

Southwind ... 1674 (2-5)

Bolton ... 1505 (2-5)

Central ... 1631 (6-2)

Brighton ... 1417 (2-5)

Munford ... 1324 (6-1)

Overton ... 1252 (0-7)

Wooddale ... 1196 (1-6)

 

4A

 

Ridgeway ... 1187 (6-1)

Dyer Co. ... 1168 (2-5)

Hardin Co. ... 1129 (4-3)

Kingsbury ... 1114 (0-7)

Kirby ... 1058 (2-5)

Craigmont ... 1003 (6-1)

Millington ... 943 (6-1)

Haywood Co. ... 876 (3-5)

 

3A

 

Sheffield ... 793 (2-4)

Fayette-Ware ... 782 (1-6)

Covington ... 781 (2-6)

Melrose ... 752 (5-2)

Raleigh-Egypt ... 725 (3-4)

Hamilton ... 710 (4-3)

East ... 617 (6-1)

 

2A

 

Fairley ... 578 (3-4)

MLK ... 577 (0-7)

Trezevant ... 568 (6-1)

Mitchell ... 554 (4-3)

Douglass ... 553 (1-6)

Hillcrest ... 505 (4-3)

Manassas ... 450 (5-2)

Westwood ... 413 (0-7)

Oakhaven ... 408 (1-6)

MAHS ... 402 (2-5)

 

1A

 

BTW ... 399 (1-6)

KIPP ... 381 (3-4)

Northside ... 282 (0-7)

Carver ... 255 (3-4)

W.E.B. Dubois ... 180 (No Record)

 

 

The above districts/regions that I have shown are how I think the TSSAA will assign schools based upon enrollments and geography. Some of those county schools may or may not be included ... that just what I would do. Just looking at that schools and their respective classifications, it just seems that the lower the classification that you go, the more then likely chance that you have of the bigger school beating the smaller school. However, it's not like that across the board because East, which is actually a 3A school can beat everybody on the list. The same can be said for Ridgeway, which is technically a 4A school. Trezevant, which is a 2A school is in the same boat with East and Ridgeway. There are other small schools that can compete with the largers schools ... so to BHS, coach10ac and Havengrad04's argument ... numbers aren't the end all, be all.

 

There are a lot of mitigating circumstances that have lead each team to their current record. Coaching, or lack thereof is one. It is probably the most critical of all parameters, but not the sole deciding factor. Participation (Numbers), or lack thereof is another. It makes a difference in games in how many of your players have to go both ways, especially the linemen. It wears them down and has a cumalative effect on them as the season progresses. It is a leading cause of the rise of another factor, attrition, on teams with lower numbers then it is on teams with larger numbers that don't have to play people both ways.

 

[i have to interject one point with the numbers thing. Coach Rutherford, when he was at White Station, never dressed out more then 50-60 guys. It was his thought that more then that was a waste. He had a lot of players on JV though ... but his varsity only dressed about 50-60 when they played varsity games. He's not the only coach that thinks like that either. But again ... he had a very viable and fully participated JV program. If need be, who could promote a guy up for back-up if a major area was hit hard with the injury bug]

 

Scheduling, is another parameter to be considered; how difficult is the schedule ... is it too ambitious? Can your squad actually compete with some of the teams on the schedule. Will losing games kill moral? Attrition, how many starters are out due to injury or are dealing with nagging injuries that lower the level of performance is another. Then there is the Culture of the program. What is expected of the young men when they suit-up for this coach and team? How much are they willing to do to be successful. Can the coach get parents to buy in to what's trying to be accomplished? Do the parents (Mothers in pasrticular) think that the coach is too demanding and it doesn't take all of that! Finally, what kind of Support Sysytem is in place? Do alum come to the games? Is there any type of Booster program in place? Does the student body go to the games and support the team?

 

You'll find that the teams above that are winning have most, if not all of the above characteristcs in place. But if all things are equall in regards to intangibles ... what happens when team A loses a major player? Is the replacement comparble? What if team A loses 5 players. Then what? The larger schools are at an advantage in that regard because they have several players at positions that could start on other teams. The smaller schools may have to scramble a bit more when the injury bug hits. Otherwise, if it's eleven vs eleven, all starters against starters ... it's anybody's game if both programs have all of the intagibles.

Edited October 15, 2014 by kwc

[PackOfWolves]

I'm going to weigh in on the numbers issue. Both sides make valid points. I agree with BHS and Havengrad04, just because you have numbers doesn't equate to winning against good competition. eastMustang and Galilee have valid points as well, when you have more numbers it give you a better advantage then those with fewer numbers. Especially when it come to attrition.

 

Below are the schools that are currently selected to play in next year's Super 32 6A classification with their current attendance numbers and current record in football.

 

6A

 

White Station ... 2289 attending (3-5)

Collierville ... 2136 attending (5-2)

Arlington ... 2044 attending (6-2)

Houston ... 1937 attending (7-0)

Cordova ... 1911 attending (3-4)

Germantown ... 1900 attending (2-6)

Whitehaven ... 1838 attending (6-0)

Bartlett ... 1818 attending (3-4)

 

The following are the classifications that will based upon the new format per attendance and geography after the Super 32 have been removed from the pool.

 

5A

 

Southwind ... 1674 (2-5)

Bolton ... 1505 (2-5)

Central ... 1631 (6-2)

Brighton ... 1417 (2-5)

Munford ... 1324 (6-1)

Overton ... 1252 (0-7)

Wooddale ... 1196 (1-6)

 

4A

 

Ridgeway ... 1187 (6-1)

Dyer Co. ... 1168 (2-5)

Hardin Co. ... 1129 (4-3)

Kingsbury ... 1114 (0-7)

Kirby ... 1058 (2-5)

Craigmont ... 1003 (6-1)

Millington ... 943 (6-1)

Haywood Co. ... 876 (3-5)

 

3A

 

Sheffield ... 793 (2-4)

Fayette-Ware ... 782 (1-6)

Covington ... 781 (2-6)

Melrose ... 752 (5-2)

Raleigh-Egypt ... 725 (3-4)

Hamilton ... 710 (4-3)

East ... 617 (6-1)

 

2A

 

Fairley ... 578 (3-4)

MLK ... 577 (0-7)

Trezevant ... 568 (6-1)

Mitchell ... 554 (4-3)

Douglass ... 553 (1-6)

Hillcrest ... 505 (4-3)

Manassas ... 450 (5-2)

Westwood ... 413 (0-7)

Oakhaven ... 408 (1-6)

MAHS ... 402 (2-5)

 

1A

 

BTW ... 399 (1-6)

KIPP ... 381 (3-4)

Northside ... 282 (0-7)

Carver ... 255 (3-4)

W.E.B. Dubois ... 180 (No Record)

 

 

The above districts/regions that I have shown are how I think the TSSAA will assign schools based upon enrollments and geography. Some of those county schools may or may not be included ... that just what I would do. Just looking at that schools and their respective classifications, it just seems that the lower the classification that you go, the more then likely chance that you have of the bigger school beating the smaller school. However, it's not like that across the board because East, which is actually a 3A school can beat everybody on the list. The same can be said for Ridgeway, which is technically a 4A school. Trezevant, which is a 2A school is in the same boat with East and Ridgeway. There are other small schools that can compete with the largers schools ... so to BHS, coach10ac and Havengrad04's argument ... numbers aren't the end all, be all.

 

There are a lot of mitigating circumstances that have lead each team to their current record. Coaching, or lack thereof is one. It is probably the most critical of all parameters, but not the sole deciding factor. Participation (Numbers), or lack thereof is another. It makes a difference in games in how many of your players have to go both ways, especially the linemen. It wears them down and has a cumalative effect on them as the season progresses. It is a leading cause of the rise of another factor, attrition, on teams with lower numbers then it is on teams with larger numbers that don't have to play people both ways.

 

[i have to interject one point with the numbers thing. Coach Rutherford, when he was at White Station, never dressed out more then 50-60 guys. It was his thought that more then that was a waste. He had a lot of players on JV though ... but his varsity only dressed about 50-60 when they played varsity games. He's not the only coach that thinks like that either. But again ... he had a very viable and fully participated JV program. If need be, who could promote a guy up for back-up if a major area was hit hard with the injury bug]

 

Scheduling, is another parameter to be considered; how difficult is the schedule ... is it too ambitious? Can your squad actually compete with some of the teams on the schedule. Will losing games kill moral? Attrition, how many starters are out due to injury or are dealing with nagging injuries that lower the level of performance is another. Then there is the Culture of the program. What is expected of the young men when they suit-up for this coach and team? How much are they willing to do to be successful. Can the coach get parents to buy in to what's trying to be accomplished? Do the parents (Mothers in pasrticular) think that the coach is too demanding and it doesn't take all of that! Finally, what kind of Support Sysytem is in place? Do alum come to the games? Is there any type of Booster program in place? Does the student body go to the games and support the team?

 

You'll find that the teams above that are winning have most, if not all of the above characteristcs in place. But if all things are equall in regards to intangibles ... what happens when team A loses a major player? Is the replacement comparble? What if team A loses 5 players. Then what? The larger schools are at an advantage in that regard because they have several players at positions that could start on other teams. The smaller schools may have to scramble a bit more when the injury bug hits. Otherwise, if it's eleven vs eleven, all starters against starters ... it's anybody's game if both programs have all of the intagibles.

Very well said!

[STARSNBARS]

What's up with the Coming to America gif, johnny reb

bw we're all laffin' att yore post and tha "lineman in the endzone"......

 

Tha giff iz good....Butt tha picture tells it all......

Edited October 15, 2014 by STARSNBARS

[STARSNBARS]

the city data website lists 3 high schools in Maryville, johnny reb.

bw .....Hairatige and Will-Yum Blunt ere Blunt Cowntee Skools.....Not city skools....

[Red Rebels]

the city data website lists 3 high schools in Maryville, johnny reb.

Who is Johnny?

[STARSNBARS]

Who is Johnny?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CTAPmA5m9k

[FactsOnly]

Ok, time to move on . . .

[Red Rebels]

the city data website lists 3 high schools in Maryville, johnny reb.

Let me explain it to you Lucy. The City of Maryville has it's own school system. There is one high school in the "City Limits" of Maryville. The United States Postal Service (USPS) assigns ZIP Codes. You can live outside the "City Limits" of Maryville and have a "Maryville" Zip Code. The other two schools are outside of the "City Limits" and are part of Blount County Schools but their address is Maryville.

 

Germantown High School isn't a part of the newly created Germantown Municipal School District, work on that one for awhile. Your mind is now officially Blown!

 

Edited October 15, 2014 by Red Rebels