GCA @ Wartburg Central

[BarneySox2007]

Well I was surprised to see Wartburg has now lost 19 games in a row going back to the 2014 season. The TSSAA should take provisions on teams like this and Union County and a few others and put them all in one unique class so some of these teams could get the experience of winning a few games instead of getting kicked around by all the other schools. 

[bluedevil6913]

Wartburg by 100

[BarneySox2007]

Wartburg by 100

No buddy, We'll be playing our Freeze Defense in this game. 42-0 and the young one's will get a lot of playing time this week.

Edited October 5, 2016 by BarneySox2007

[TheAmbassador]

Well I was surprised to see Wartburg has now lost 19 games in a row going back to the 2014 season. The TSSAA should take provisions on teams like this and Union County and a few others and put them all in one unique class so some of these teams could get the experience of winning a few games instead of getting kicked around by all the other schools.

You mean something like that crazy idea someone mentioned last year? Someone mentioned the idea to take the worst 45-50 teams in the state out of 1-3A currently, put them all into what we would call Class 1A and compete for a state championship. The upper echelon 1A, 2A, and 3A teams would all have to compete in 3A and everyone in between in 2A. It was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. LMBO

[BarneySox2007]

You mean something like that crazy idea someone mentioned last year? Someone mentioned the idea to take the worst 45-50 teams in the state out of 1-3A currently, put them all into what we would call Class 1A and compete for a state championship. The upper echelon 1A, 2A, and 3A teams would all have to compete in 3A and everyone in between in 2A. It was the dumbest thing I've ever heard. LMBO

If you don't figure out a way to help these programs have a fair chance at winning their programs are going to seest to exist, plain and simple.You could take ten or twelve teams from three areas of the state  and give them their own small league to compete in. No state championships but just a simple league title. If one started dominating then they would get moved back into the regular leagues and be replaced with another team going through the downward spiral.

[tninsider]

If you don't figure out a way to help these programs have a fair chance at winning their programs are going to seest to exist, plain and simple.You could take ten or twelve teams from three areas of the state  and give them their own small league to compete in. No state championships but just a simple league title. If one started dominating then they would get moved back into the regular leagues and be replaced with another team going through the downward spiral.

 

It's an admirable plan, but that's going to be a heck of a travel bill for some of those teams, and a lot of the local games, even if they get killed, are money makers for those programs. 

 

I do think you're asking to try and make something that has so many variables a constant. A lot of it has to do with the community, what kind of kids are there, whether people move, etc. It would be near impossible to legislate, and if you put them in their own separate class, I bet they would want a state championship, or at least the schools and parents would. Otherwise you would get a lot of "Why are we even playing" talk. 

 

I just don't see any physical way that this is possible, unfortunately. I think that the same teams would end up in that class year after year. Instead of competing against better talent, you're just in a pool of people that are as bad as you, and once you move up, you start losing again, then end up back down in the bottom. 

[pujo]

It's an admirable plan, but that's going to be a heck of a travel bill for some of those teams, and a lot of the local games, even if they get killed, are money makers for those programs. 

 

I do think you're asking to try and make something that has so many variables a constant. A lot of it has to do with the community, what kind of kids are there, whether people move, etc. It would be near impossible to legislate, and if you put them in their own separate class, I bet they would want a state championship, or at least the schools and parents would. Otherwise you would get a lot of "Why are we even playing" talk. 

 

I just don't see any physical way that this is possible, unfortunately. I think that the same teams would end up in that class year after year. Instead of competing against better talent, you're just in a pool of people that are as bad as you, and once you move up, you start losing again, then end up back down in the bottom. 

In the past I've seen some of these teams schedule the weakest teams they could find. They started thinking they were good and then played a good team and it was the exact same. All schools have kids and the only one's that can fix their woe's are themselves. Its sad for the kids at these schools but it is what it is. Its actually really simple,you hire a good coach,recruit the hallways and go to WORK.

[RudyWasOffsides]

In the past I've seen some of these teams schedule the weakest teams they could find. They started thinking they were good and then played a good team and it was the exact same. All schools have kids and the only one's that can fix their woe's are themselves. Its sad for the kids at these schools but it is what it is. Its actually really simple,you hire a good coach,recruit the hallways and go to WORK.

And in Morgan Co where WB is located, it's ok to even recruit from other schools. The beauty of it is the TSSAA doesn't even care.

[pujo]

And in Morgan Co where WB is located, it's ok to even recruit from other schools. The beauty of it is the TSSAA doesn't even care.

Its always been bad In Morgan Co. Coalfield has thrived off transfers for years.

[RudyWasOffsides]

Its always been bad In Morgan Co. Coalfield has thrived off transfers for years.

Does that happen a lot where you're from? I'm not aware of the distance between cloudland and Hampton

[pujo]

Does that happen a lot where you're from? I'm not aware of the distance between cloudland and Hampton

Its very rare in this area. These schools are very close but School pride is a big thing. Elizabethton gets a few from all the Co teams but its rare when a kid goes from one Co team to another. My oldest transferred from Cloudland to Hampton when he was in the 8th grade. His uncle was the head coach at Hampton and Cloudland had issues.

[tninsider]

In the past I've seen some of these teams schedule the weakest teams they could find. They started thinking they were good and then played a good team and it was the exact same. All schools have kids and the only one's that can fix their woe's are themselves. Its sad for the kids at these schools but it is what it is. Its actually really simple,you hire a good coach,recruit the hallways and go to WORK.

 

Completely agree with this. It's cyclical, too. Sometimes the gene pool just isn't what it was during a school's hey-day, but that changes over time. A lot of these dynasty style teams that compete year in and year out just have a favorable set up right now. Eventually, they all stumble a little. 

 

Heck, Wartburg was 9-3 six years ago and went to the state quarterfinals. I just thing we have to accept that every team is going to have some down years, especially at the local level where schools can't draw as many from the community as other places. 

 

Putting them all together won't alleviate that. It will just let them beat up on each other and never really improve.