Who made a better hire? Cleveland or Oak Ridge?

[Swipes]

3 hours ago, ILB1999WHS said:

the average pay thing has nothing to do with the pay scale, so yeah, it is up for debate.  OR 43,911 for 206 days.  Knox 43,077 for 200 days.  

 

That means OR stating day pay is 213.  Knox is 215.  

 

I'll call that a draw.  but sure.  You're always right.

 

It doesn't matter what either pay scale is if one system is hiring more qualified teachers.  Oak Ridge hirers more qualified teachers than Knox County and probably why their Avg Salary is the highest in the State.

[ILB1999]

22 minutes ago, Swipes said:

It doesn't matter what either pay scale is if one system is hiring more qualified teachers.  Oak Ridge hirers more qualified teachers than Knox County and probably why their Avg Salary is the highest in the State.

Haha  sure.  If they were more qualified, wouldn't OR be one of the HIghest performing schools in the state?  Breaking news:  It's not.

[ForTheRidge]

5 hours ago, ILB1999WHS said:

Haha  sure.  If they were more qualified, wouldn't OR be one of the HIghest performing schools in the state?  Breaking news:  It's not.

What is this guy’s problem?

[Swipes]

17 hours ago, ILB1999WHS said:

Haha  sure.  If they were more qualified, wouldn't OR be one of the HIghest performing schools in the state?  Breaking news:  It's not.

They are one of the highest rated school systems in the state when it comes to public schools 

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/tennessee/

https://www.wate.com/news/best-school-districts-in-tennessee/

I truly believe you have no concept on how to look at Data.  Let's break it down in hopefully more common since terms to you.

I run a business and i put out a pay scale (50-100k a year based on degrees and experience).  My buddy runs the same type of business and has a similar pay scale (49k-99k based on degrees and experience).  My average employee is making 65k year where his average employee is making 55k a year.  It would be common sense that I am hiring employee's with more experience or higher degrees and in turn they are getting paid more based on the Pay Scale.

[ILB1999]

12 hours ago, ForTheRidge said:

What is this guy’s problem?

just responding to the things ppl say.  that's how these things work.  like seriosly the point of a message board.   Let me be really clear.  I have nothing against OR.  When my cousin moved into the area, we looked at OR as a possiblitly.  And I did quite a bit of research.  Wasn't actually rangled by OR.  sorry if it sounded like it.  was far more annoyed by the same tired narratives I've been hearing since we moved here.  I don't where they started, but it's clearly in the past.  Honestly if my cousin would have tried to get into STEM if they had a decent football team.  apparently they hardly hve any sports.  we looked at the best football schools around and OR was on that list.  And academically, they're okay too.  Honestly wasn't trying to run yall down.  I was more annoyed by the poster.  Sometimes he igores fact.  Sorry about that.

[ILB1999]

2 minutes ago, Swipes said:

They are one of the highest rated school systems in the state when it comes to public schools 

https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-school-districts/s/tennessee/

https://www.wate.com/news/best-school-districts-in-tennessee/

I truly believe you have no concept on how to look at Data.  Let's break it down in hopefully more common since terms to you.

I run a business and i put out a pay scale (50-100k a year based on degrees and experience).  My buddy runs the same type of business and has a similar pay scale (49k-99k based on degrees and experience).  My average employee is making 65k year where his average employee is making 55k a year.  It would be common sense that I am hiring employee's with more experience or higher degrees and in turn they are getting paid more based on the Pay Scale.

You're looking at Districts?  I thought we were just looking at the High Schools.  That's all I was looking at for my cousin.  And when you do that, they're below: Farragut, Maryville, West, Mo West, and Bearden.  and that's just in the local area.  But sure, you're right.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/tennessee/rankings

 

[Swipes]

25 minutes ago, ILB1999WHS said:

You're looking at Districts?  I thought we were just looking at the High Schools.  That's all I was looking at for my cousin.  And when you do that, they're below: Farragut, Maryville, West, Mo West, and Bearden.  and that's just in the local area.  But sure, you're right.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/tennessee/rankings

 

Once again I think you have a problem reading.  Everything I have posted has stated Oak Ridge City School District from the Comp report to HTV article from Vanderbilts study also is about the school district. 

[ILB1999]

3 minutes ago, Swipes said:

Once again I think you have a problem reading.  Everything I have posted has stated Oak Ridge City School District from the Comp report to HTV article from Vanderbilts study also is about the school district. 

I'm not sure what that has to do with HS football, but okay.  clearly I'm wrong.

 

Let's forget that I started the discussion of pay by saying that Cleveland was a higher paying job than the OR coaching job.  

Edited February 7, 2023 by ILB1999WHS

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[ILB1999]

2 hours ago, Swipes said:

I run a business and i put out a pay scale (50-100k a year based on degrees and experience).  My buddy runs the same type of business and has a similar pay scale (49k-99k based on degrees and experience).  My average employee is making 65k year where his average employee is making 55k a year.  It would be common sense that I am hiring employee's with more experience or higher degrees and in turn they are getting paid more based on the Pay Scale.

Does it therefore follow that you are getting better products?  

 

The answer appears to be no...

[Swipes]

2 hours ago, ILB1999WHS said:

Does it therefore follow that you are getting better products?  

 

The answer appears to be no...

Yes i'm getting a better product and appears to be yes or I wouldn't be hiring more experienced people and paying them more money. (that would make me a bad business owner)

Once again Oak Ridge City School district is the highest Avg pay for public school Teachers in the state of Tennessee and a top 10 School District in the State year after year.  Prove that wrong......

[SweetScience]

On 2/6/2023 at 2:03 PM, ILB1999WHS said:

Haha  sure.  If they were more qualified, wouldn't OR be one of the HIghest performing schools in the state?  Breaking news:  It's not.

Are we talking about academics here or sports? We can dispute the whole sports thing, sure, but I don’t think the academic aspect of it is up for much debate. OR has ALWAYS been a top public academic school in the state, anybody knows that that knows anything about academics in this state. 
 

As far as sports go, sure we’ve struggled by our standards in football in recent memory, although we have been to the state championship in 2005 and 2020, although we lost, we were still there. There’s a lot of teams out there that would love to say that. Historically, OR has been very successful in just about every sport we have, although I wouldn’t include baseball as one of those (we have had some really good teams, but not great), but we have won state championships in just about every sport we have. Some not in recent memory (I don’t think we have won a title in anything since 2011), but they still count regardless. Just go to the gym to watch a basketball game, all the banners are hanging up there for you to see, ya can’t miss ‘em, brother.
 

Besides Brentwood and Farragut, OR has the most state championships in all sports as any other public school in the state. How you can equate that to not being high performing is beyond me, but to each their own, I reckon.

Edited February 7, 2023 by SweetScience