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6 hours ago, WestTNHoopsFan said:

The score table has been the source of a ton of issues!!! Come on. It is the state tournament for crying out loud!! They put the officials in bad situations over and over again.

You care to elaborate ? what's the deal with the table? 

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9 hours ago, WestTNHoopsFan said:

The score table has been the source of a ton of issues!!! Come on. It is the state tournament for crying out loud!! They put the officials in bad situations over and over again.

Mane wys! Not saying that we would’ve beat Dyersburg in our game but we went up 3. The scores table kept messing up. I know personally they fouled out our best player twice… only problem was coach Brent McNeal had taking her out due to 4 fouls! Thats how our coach got not 1 but 2 mystery techs just trying to get an explanation on tech 1! It was terrible! I have seen middle school kids do the scores table better! They also had the score of the game wrong majority of the game! 

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13 hours ago, Madddog2020 said:

You care to elaborate ? what's the deal with the table? 

sure:

Wrong number of player fouls on an individual

wrong number of team fouls

who ball on a jump ball

the Douglas game vs Austin East (officials called a million fouls... anothter story for another day), Austin East should have been shooting 2 free throws and they didn't

Imma just leave the SS vs Dyersburg game alone... There are multiple examples in that game. 

 

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A teenager at their ninth summer camp game in a row on their phone 99% of the time running both the clock and the fouls at the same time would have done a better job trying to keep both the book and the clock during the Dburg/JaxSS girls game than the people they used.  It was so bad it was laughable.  Scoring errors three different times, once not fixed for 30minutes in realtime.  Coaches were told their players have five fouls when they didn't but making the coach sub them out at crucial times in the game.   Only later to be told they could sub that girl back in she only had four. 

This is in a one-possession game mid 4th quarter, and then you give the coach a tech when he is frustrated by that so it was the refs too not just score/clockkeepers.  Or at least it was one of the refs.  He was probably in over his head.  He called both techs and gave each coach a bench warning and made over half of the foul calls it seems.  Some leeway needs to be given to coaches especially when the scorekeepers making mistakes all game long and refs are kicking calls.  When you kick a call, just sit there and take your tongue-lashing for a bit and move on, don't double down and follow up your error by then adding a tech to the situation as long as your are not getting cussed out.  Dyersburg was awarded two FTs on a shooting foul that was a made basket and missed the first one and made the second.  When the refs figured out their error they made Dyersburg use the incorrect "And Two" free-throw as actually their first tech FT.  Then about 3 minutes later they shoot the second tech FT but likely wanted their D1 signee shooting them but she wasn't allowed to because the girl that got fouled shooting got the extra.  

There were other things happen too but this post is already too long.  It is a shame that what was probably the state championship game between the best two teams in the state had people working the game that were not ready for prime time.  Both coaches and teams were frustrated most of the night.

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2 hours ago, Lash said:

A teenager at their ninth summer camp game in a row on their phone 99% of the time running both the clock and the fouls at the same time would have done a better job trying to keep both the book and the clock during the Dburg/JaxSS girls game than the people they used.  It was so bad it was laughable.  Scoring errors three different times, once not fixed for 30minutes in realtime.  Coaches were told their players have five fouls when they didn't but making the coach sub them out at crucial times in the game.   Only later to be told they could sub that girl back in she only had four. 

This is in a one-possession game mid 4th quarter, and then you give the coach a tech when he is frustrated by that so it was the refs too not just score/clockkeepers.  Or at least it was one of the refs.  He was probably in over his head.  He called both techs and gave each coach a bench warning and made over half of the foul calls it seems.  Some leeway needs to be given to coaches especially when the scorekeepers making mistakes all game long and refs are kicking calls.  When you kick a call, just sit there and take your tongue-lashing for a bit and move on, don't double down and follow up your error by then adding a tech to the situation as long as your are not getting cussed out.  Dyersburg was awarded two FTs on a shooting foul that was a made basket and missed the first one and made the second.  When the refs figured out their error they made Dyersburg use the incorrect "And Two" free-throw as actually their first tech FT.  Then about 3 minutes later they shoot the second tech FT but likely wanted their D1 signee shooting them but she wasn't allowed to because the girl that got fouled shooting got the extra.  

There were other things happen too but this post is already too long.  It is a shame that what was probably the state championship game between the best two teams in the state had people working the game that were not ready for prime time.  Both coaches and teams were frustrated most of the night.

She actually made the first free throw then we’re wondering why she’s shooting tech not Jordan she missed first one then they figured out they screwed up so they had to let her shoot second tech free throw which she made. Fouls were kept right just the guy posting them was giving them to wrong girls then fans are going by what’s on board which is wrong. Should never happen at state tournament

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11 hours ago, WestTNHoopsFan said:

sure:

Wrong number of player fouls on an individual

wrong number of team fouls

who ball on a jump ball

the Douglas game vs Austin East (officials called a million fouls... anothter story for another day), Austin East should have been shooting 2 free throws and they didn't

Imma just leave the SS vs Dyersburg game alone... There are multiple examples in that game. 

 

Gotcha. Sounds like a mess

 

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On 3/15/2024 at 3:21 PM, TrickyD said:

She actually made the first free throw then we’re wondering why she’s shooting tech not Jordan she missed first one then they figured out they screwed up so they had to let her shoot second tech free throw which she made. Fouls were kept right just the guy posting them was giving them to wrong girls then fans are going by what’s on board which is wrong. Should never happen at state tournament

What was the Tech for in the Dyersburg game against Upperman?? Don't understand that one as the guy that called the Tech was the same guy that called 2 on McNeal the night before if I am not mistaken. He called a couple of our games and wasn't a bad ref but he sure got trigger happy. 

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32 minutes ago, pioneer42 said:

What was the Tech for in the Dyersburg game against Upperman?? Don't understand that one as the guy that called the Tech was the same guy that called 2 on McNeal the night before if I am not mistaken. He called a couple of our games and wasn't a bad ref but he sure got trigger happy. 

Allegedly the player said “five seconds.”

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