ObserverW Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 BUT the big difference is what I posted is one mans opinion. The coaches poll is a group opinion, which I would think would be more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacoach Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 So basically the team that finished 3rd in the duals, 2nd overall at the State Tournament is not on your list. Interesting how TN High returns many, I expect them to change your mind...all it takes is 8 decisive wins! Based on the original post, Ranking for November and early December I would not have Arlington in the top 10 over TN High or Science Hill. That being said, I see Christian Brothers looks strong early, maybe you are more correct on that ranking being a bit low on the coaches poll. I could see them move up a bit. It will be interesting to compare the 2 lists after the first week of December. Not a bad list, but honestly I didn't think the original coaches poll was off much, but I only know the AAA teams. Hard part is when they don't cross over and wrestle each other head to head. Its easy to sit here and computer simulate who could beat whom...but until the kids actually wrestle it will never be known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sommers Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I am with Ghouse about earning your ranking! Everyone that has been around Tennessee high school wrestling for any amount of time knows that in a normal season CBHS & Father Ryan wrestle a tough out of state schedule. How many times does it have to be said that you never know what team Pat Simpson is going to put on the mat until the region tournament. Just an educated guess that the FR team people watched on Saturday will be much different when February rolls around. Agreed!! As far as reaching your highest potential it's hard to top what you get at Ryan, but as one poster stated, is pricey and likely one reason talent may go elsewhere as nolensville, Brentwood Ravenwood, Franklin and others around middle Tennessee has and will see. Always been the case in Chattanooga-north GA area forever. Best bang for the buck? Who can dispute Bradley over the years - especially right now, and well funded Cleveland as tops in the state and top 5-10 yearly average in SE since the early 90's Great matches coming up in December!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObserverW Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Always been the case in Chattanooga-north GA area forever. Best bang for the buck? Who can dispute Bradley over the years - especially right now, and well funded Cleveland as tops in the state and top 5-10 yearly average in SE since the early 90's Great matches coming up in December!! Again, to my original point. Yes, these teams have a history of winning but it does not mean they are the top every single year. Creating a ranking based on historical, aka legacy rankings can be inaccurate. The ranking, as someone so eloquently put it yesterday (was that you ArtisSimba), should be earned, but I will add, earned on a yearly basis, not simply on reputation. No one will give Independence or Arlington a shot because they haven't historically been at the top, it's a risky venture to go out on a limb and make the call. Kind of like picking the Panthers to win a Super Bowl. I will also agree with PA Guy that there are other teams that deserve to be in the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas23 Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 the order to where teams belong in D1 is much more clear today, at least in the top 10. Thank you Tullahoma duals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sommers Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Soddy looked strong today! Looks deserving of a higher ranking. Chattanooga area teams did well verses mid-tn teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfixalot49 Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 SD 40 VS W.CENTRAL.31 that's deserving of a higher rank I would think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fooseball95 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 So is WC overrated after being beat by Soddy and Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bump11 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) Getting beat by Cleveland and Soddy, 2 of the most decorated programs in state history, does not make you overrated. If anything it means Cleveland and Soddy were not given the respect they deserve in the initial rankings Edited December 5, 2016 by Bump11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObserverW Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Maybe all 3 are overrated. We will see soon when they meet up with Bradley. Also, just want to mention that Arlington was 4th at Black Horse, only 5 points behind Beech. And The Bros also had a great showing at 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fooseball95 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Getting beat by Cleveland and Soddy, 2 of the most decorated programs in state history, does not make you overrated. If anything it means Cleveland and Soddy were not given the respect they deserve in the initial rankings That's point I was trying to make, Cleveland and Soddy wasn't given the respect which makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas23 Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 It still indicates that WC was rated at least a few spots too high based on the head to head results on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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