Gotta love UT football

[Rabble Rouser]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/27/sports/n...page&adxnnlx=11

[WaCoJaCo]

Well it is a New York Times artical. My first reaction is to check and see if they made the whole thing up. I don't know who to believe, a bunch of "con-men" running a high school (University High), or the New York Times. I think I'll go with the "con-men".

[HTV]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/27/sports/n...page&adxnnlx=11

 

 

Can I interrupt your anit-UT rant with some factual information?

 

First of all, UT isn't the only school metioned that accepted students who had earned credits through that school. There were some 20 mentioned. There were no accusations of anything in voliation of rules or ethics.

 

Secondly, the NCAA and the Clearinghouse found no problem with accepting courses taken through University High. They did the homework and found it credible.

 

Prospective student athletes and non athletes alike use alternative options to make up or improve grades in courses they didn't do well in. It is not an unusual practice. You'd be surprised just how many high school students do extra work to improve their chances at getting in to their hopeful institution of higher learning.

[Rabble Rouser]

Can I interrupt your anit-UT rant with some factual information?

 

First of all, UT isn't the only school metioned that accepted students who had earned credits through that school. There were some 20 mentioned. There were no accusations of anything in voliation of rules or ethics.

 

Secondly, the NCAA and the Clearinghouse found no problem with accepting courses taken through University High. They did the homework and found it credible.

 

Prospective student athletes and non athletes alike use alternative options to make up or improve grades in courses they didn't do well in. It is not an unusual practice. You'd be surprised just how many high school students do extra work to improve their chances at getting in to their hopeful institution of higher learning.

Classic. Exactly the two responses I knew this would bring - attack the messenger and "Everybody's doing it."

 

I would have been shocked if anyone would have come on here and called for some action from UT to actually improve the academics in their athletics.

 

 

 

Perfect.

[HTV]

Classic. Exactly the two responses I knew this would bring - attack the messenger and "Everybody's doing it."

 

I would have been shocked if anyone would have come on here and called for some action from UT to actually improve the academics in their athletics.

Perfect.

 

 

Don't go there. Your inference is that UT and the other schools mentioned are doing something wrong. Exactly what is being done that is wrong?

 

Again, the NCAA and its Clearinghouse have done their homework. The University Presidents run the NCAA. If there were problems with that particular program, do you really believe that the NCAA would have signed off on it?

 

I understand academic integrity very well. I know what it means to work hard to better oneself academically and earn an opportunity.

 

Again, it's facts in evidence vs. your innuendo and finger pointing. Your assersions just don't have legs.

[icecold06]

Don't go there. Your inference is that UT and the other schools mentioned are doing something wrong. Exactly what is being done that is wrong?

 

Again, the NCAA and its Clearinghouse have done their homework. The University Presidents run the NCAA. If there were problems with that particular program, do you really believe that the NCAA would have signed off on it?

 

I understand academic integrity very well. I know what it means to work hard to better oneself academically and earn an opportunity.

 

Again, it's facts in evidence vs. your innuendo and finger pointing. Your assersions just don't have legs.

i will tell you exactly what is being done wrong these young men are being given a false sense of hope. They have learned absolutely nothing but are being led to believe that they are success stories and they go to college not prepared just so they can play a game. Tell me whats right about that

[gotmilk?]

I have no problem with it, if the NCAA doesnt!!!

[Sequatchie]

Someone posted this in the "Open Forum" the other day and as I said then this is very old news almost a year come February.

 

All this was talked about when Morley signed last spring but he got into UT and the NCAA Clearinghouse found no problems.

 

It seems someone is trying to kick the big dog before it gets back up.

Edited November 29, 2005 by Sequatchie

[gotmilk?]

Someone posted this in the "Open Forum" the other day and as I said then this is very old news almost a year come February.

 

All this was talked about when Morley signed last spring but he got into UT and the NCAA Clearinghouse found no problems.

 

It seems someone is trying to kick the big dog before it gets back up.

 

These people need to learn, you touch a wounded animal and it will bite!!!

[ERA]

Chancellor Gordon Gee of Vanderbilt was on 104.5 The Zone this evening and he said this event is real and is criminal. He says that it is not just wrong but is a criminal act. The NCAA said they would investigate it to see if something is out of line but Gordon Gee was livid. He said it was a disservice to the educational system. Raising a GPA from a 1.7 to a 2.7 in three weeks was absolutely unnacceptable and he called for immediate action.

 

I'm telling you, this will be very big before it's over. Gee has been a proponent for the new wave he started where academics and athletics gets back on track together as a unit instead of one over the other. This flies in the face of the academia world. I look for Gordon to personally direct the NCAA to do a scorched earth policy towards this type of sham. We'll have to wait and see....

[WesVLT]

Don't bash UT's involvement in the incident. Of the 20-plus schools who accepted students from University High, only UT investigated the school.

[mcfollower]

well takeem ever how we can get em.