Grunt Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Old Pirate says you just supported what OP has said all along. The Chatt area has a large number of middle schools and the privates frequently recruit these for the athletic students. The public schools are left with what they get. OP says just witness the privates when participating in middle school and follow them later in high school. They obtain transfers and become more compeitive. Go figure, subject to speculation!!!! Draw your own conclusion. Old Pirate says families are sometimes caught thinking that "all" is better in the private sector. Somethings are better and somethings are not always better. OP, Beavo, there is another facet to this thing that goes mostly ignored, and that is not only does this apply to athletes, but to other students as well. Privates draw the better non-athletes, further diluting the public schools, leaving a higher avg. of students that do not do well, have parents that are not involved, one parent kids, etc. And, yes, magnets do the same thing, actually more so. But, who cares, right? Of, course, a split wouldn't solve this part of the equation, unless, for every good student they pull from publics, they would be required take two problem kids, and a non athlete for the star player. If the interest is really for the betterment of kids, then take some of those disadvantaged as well. Nah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD PIRATE Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 OP, Beavo, there is another facet to this thing that goes mostly ignored, and that is not only does this apply to athletes, but to other students as well. Privates draw the better non-athletes, further diluting the public schools, leaving a higher avg. of students that do not do well, have parents that are not involved, one parent kids, etc. And, yes, magnets do the same thing, actually more so. But, who cares, right? Of, course, a split wouldn't solve this part of the equation, unless, for every good student they pull from publics, they would be required take two problem kids, and a non athlete for the star player. If the interest is really for the betterment of kids, then take some of those disadvantaged as well. Nah! Grunt, Old Pirate says great point. However, how often do you hear of a scholar student being pursued? Old school teaches us that this world is full of all types and kinds of people and we all need to be able co-exsist with every type, color or religious back ground. We attempt to shelter our kids and that is understandable. However are they gaining some skills needed in the REAL world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavo5 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Grunt, Old Pirate says great point. However, how often do you hear of a scholar student being pursued? Old school teaches us that this world is full of all types and kinds of people and we all need to be able co-exsist with every type, color or religious back ground. We attempt to shelter our kids and that is understandable. However are they gaining some skills needed in the REAL world? Thats a good point OP... I've never heard of a scholar student being pursued or recruited like athletes do (other than some colleges) and I know a bunch of scholar students being 1 when I was in school! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66in74 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 This topic/link was set up as an unofficial poll to just vote on a public/priviate split. I thought there was already a link to discuss your position either way? /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavo5 Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 This topic/link was set up as an unofficial poll to just vote on a public/priviate split. I thought there was already a link to discuss your position either way? /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" /> I don't think so there is one about fair play and there is one about multiplier, but not one about a public/private split for or against except for this one and it is getting interesting and I've still haven't gotten my GOOD REASON!!! I know why I haven't cause there isn't one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaction Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I don't think so there is one about fair play and there is one about multiplier, but not one about a public/private split for or against except for this one and it is getting interesting and I've still haven't gotten my GOOD REASON!!! I know why I haven't cause there isn't one!!! Then make one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBandJ Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 OP, Beavo, there is another facet to this thing that goes mostly ignored, and that is not only does this apply to athletes, but to other students as well. Privates draw the better non-athletes, further diluting the public schools, leaving a higher avg. of students that do not do well, have parents that are not involved, one parent kids, etc. And, yes, magnets do the same thing, actually more so. But, who cares, right? Of, course, a split wouldn't solve this part of the equation, unless, for every good student they pull from publics, they would be required take two problem kids, and a non athlete for the star player. If the interest is really for the betterment of kids, then take some of those disadvantaged as well. Nah! Actually, that is why some of the D1 privates are in D1. For example, it is in MBA's charter that the underpriviledged will be served with a scholarships. Casting aside the athletic scholarship rule was something they literally could not do. /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaxMan Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Just an unoffical poll. Should privates (whether D1 or D2) and publics be split? Vote Yes or No. no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SONGWRITER Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66in74 Posted April 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 4/21/08: NO: 16 Yes: 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redog Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckLateral Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Maybe fence-sitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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