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Gerry Bertier
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Division: I, II

Class: A, AA, AAA

(Each class will have 16 districts)

(Each class will be divided into two subdivisions/FB classes)

Subdivision/FB class: 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A

 

If Tyner wins District 6-AA, which is composed of Tyner (3A), Howard(3A), Hixson (4A), Brainard (4A), Chatt. Central (4A), East Hamilton (4A), East Ridge (4A), and Red Bank (4A), then Howard can become playoff eligible in the following ways:

 

• Howard beats Tyner, which would put them in the top half of their subdivision/FB class: District 6, subdivision/FB class 3A. This is possible if Tyner wins the district as the only one loss team. Howard can be 1-9 in this situation with their win being against Tyner.

• Howard comes in second place in District 6-AA.

• Howard is selected as a wildcard after the playoff eligible teams have been determined for subdivision/FB class 3A.

 

I think we may be saying the same thing, but I don't follow your terminology. The terminology that I used in this message is the same terminology that TSSAA uses.

 

here is were i got my terminology http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

which says howard can not make the playoffs as wild card because they finshed second because the have to have a better record than half of div II 3a there is only 1 guarantee in 6a that is finish number1

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Ok, lets talk TSSAA terminology.

 

Division: I, II

Class: A, AA, AAA

(Each class will have 16 districts)

(Each class will be divided into two subdivisions/FB classes)

Subdivision/FB class: 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A

 

If Tyner wins District 6-AA, which is composed of Tyner (3A), Howard(3A), Hixson (4A), Brainard (4A), Chatt. Central (4A), East Hamilton (4A), East Ridge (4A), and Red Bank (4A), then Howard can become playoff eligible in the following ways:

 

• Howard beats Tyner, which would put them in the top half of their subdivision/FB class: District 6, subdivision/FB class 3A. This is possible if Tyner wins the district as the only one loss team. Howard can be 1-9 in this situation with their win being against Tyner.

• Howard comes in second place in District 6-AA.

• Howard is selected as a wildcard after the playoff eligible teams have been determined for subdivision/FB class 3A.

 

I think we may be saying the same thing, but I don't follow your terminology. The terminology that I used in this message is the same terminology that TSSAA uses.

 

1.) We will settle this issue on Friday at Finley Stadium.

 

2.) Mathematically Howard can't place 2nd because District record is :1-4 (Tyner is currently in 2nd place with a 4-1 record)

 

3.) wildcard spot is a long shot due to overall record being 2-6.

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here is were i got my terminology http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

which says howard can not make the playoffs as wild card because they finshed second because the have to have a better record than half of div II 3a there is only 1 guarantee in 6a that is finish number1

 

Your link didn't work. Howard is in:

Division I

Class AA

District 6

Football Class (subdivision) 3A

 

I don't know what you mean by "div II 3a" or "6a"

I also didn't realize that you were talking about Howard and Tyner's actual records for this year.

I was simply saying that it is possible for a 1-9 team to make the playoffs. In the case of Tyner and Howard... the only way for Howard to make the playoffs this year is to beat Tyner.

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here is were i got my terminology http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

which says howard can not make the playoffs as wild card because they finshed second because the have to have a better record than half of div II 3a there is only 1 guarantee in 6a that is finish number1

 

Your link didn't work. Howard is in:

Division I

Class AA

District 6

Football Class (subdivision) 3A

 

I don't know what you mean by "div II 3a" or "6a"

I also didn't realize that you were talking about Howard and Tyner's actual records for this year.

I was simply saying that it is possible for a 1-9 team to make the playoffs. In the case of Tyner and Howard... the only way for Howard to make the playoffs this year is to beat Tyner.

 

Howard has already been eliminated from the playoffs because they would have to finish above Tyner in the final District standings, and cannot do so. Even if they defeat Tyner, they will still be below them in the District.

 

Based on: http://www.tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/r ... fm?class=2

District 6 AA

"3A--The team that finishes the highest in the final district standings becomes playoff eligible."

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OK, I've spent a bit of time studying this, and I think there is a very basic mistake several people are missing when attempting to "seed" each quadrant. In this link:

http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

 

Play the video, particularly starting at the 18:00 min. mark. The TSSAA specifically says "it will not be a true seeded quadrant in many instances." Then, at the 18:35 mark, it specifically shows how the quadrant will be layed out when one quad has multiple teams from the same district qualify. It is not iffy or ambiguous, it is plain as can be. Example "C" shows a quad with 4 teams from the same district and how they will be placed. As of today, that is the case in district 4-3A. This is what the video shows about those 4 teams.

 

1st in district in first pair

 

3rd in district in second pair

 

2nd in district in 3rd pair

 

4th in district in 4th pair.

 

What is above is not in doubt, go to the video and see for yourself.

Below is my opinion after studying it on how it will break down as of today for the East middle quad. (The number beside some of the teams shows how they would finish in Dist 4-3A)

 

If quads are drawn starting from the East:

Alcoa 1 vs. York

AE vs. Loudon3

CAK 3 vs. McMinn

Kingston 4 vs. Polk

 

If quads are drawn starting from the west:

Alcoa vs. Tyner

AE vs. Loudon

CAK vs. McMinn

Kingston vs. Polk

 

Again, these are as of today, and there are 2 more games which could alter things slightly. As of today, Loudon, Kingston and York are wildcards. Additionally, how the quads will be drawn is described as "geographically," so while I believe the above is how it will break, some teams on the perimeter could go either way depending on which wildcard teams in the East quad and the East Mid quad qualify. There will be 8 wildcards (based on current standings) with Loudon being 1st of those 8, York 2nd, and Kingston 6th.

 

documentation:

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/regio ... fm?class=2

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/wildcard.cfm?class=3A

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/maps3A.cfm

http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

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OK, I've spent a bit of time studying this, and I think there is a very basic mistake several people are missing when attempting to "seed" each quadrant. In this link:

http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

 

Play the video, particularly starting at the 18:00 min. mark. The TSSAA specifically says "it will not be a true seeded quadrant in many instances." Then, at the 18:35 mark, it specifically shows how the quadrant will be layed out when one quad has multiple teams from the same district qualify. It is not iffy or ambiguous, it is plain as can be. Example "C" shows a quad with 4 teams from the same district and how they will be placed. As of today, that is the case in district 4-3A. This is what the video shows about those 4 teams.

 

1st in district in first pair

 

3rd in district in second pair

 

2nd in district in 3rd pair

 

4th in district in 4th pair.

 

What is above is not in doubt, go to the video and see for yourself.

Below is my opinion after studying it on how it will break down as of today for the East middle quad. (The number beside some of the teams shows how they would finish in Dist 4-3A)

 

If quads are drawn starting from the East:

Alcoa 1 vs. York

AE vs. Loudon3

CAK 3 vs. McMinn

Kingston 4 vs. Polk

 

If quads are drawn starting from the west:

Alcoa vs. Tyner

AE vs. Loudon

CAK vs. McMinn

Kingston vs. Polk

 

Again, these are as of today, and there are 2 more games which could alter things slightly. As of today, Loudon, Kingston and York are wildcards. Additionally, how the quads will be drawn is described as "geographically," so while I believe the above is how it will break, some teams on the perimeter could go either way depending on which wildcard teams in the East quad and the East Mid quad qualify. There will be 8 wildcards (based on current standings) with Loudon being 1st of those 8, York 2nd, and Kingston 6th.

 

documentation:

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/regio ... fm?class=2

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/wildcard.cfm?class=3A

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/maps3A.cfm

http://tssaa.org/training/classificatio ... tation.htm

 

Is this the one your talking about?

 

Seeding.jpg

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Waters have already been muddied even before tonight. Happy Valley just moved up with their win over Johnson Co. That will put them ahead of Johnson Co. if it comes down to those 2 for the last spot in.

 

It looks like approximately 11 teams for 8 spots. Loudon (7-2) and York (6-3) are definitely in. That leaves 8 teams for 5 spots. If Harpeth (4-5) beats Stewart (6-3)...they are in as an auto qualifier. If they lose...they are likely out. Lewis County (3-7) is in due to their win over Hickman Co. last night...Hickman (4-6) is likely out. Other teams looking fairly good are Kingston...Grundy (should beat ND)...East Lit. It may come down to opponents wins. If so...these teams should qualify.

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The teams in quad 4 are settled in. All we have to do is wait on seeding.

 

Here are the scenarios.

 

Milan- Get # 1 seed if they beat Crockett Co or if they lose and Manassas loses to Kingsbury.

 

Camden- # 2 seed if Manassas loses or # 3 seed otherwise

 

Manassas- # 1 seed with a win and Milan lose or # 2 seed with Win and Milan win, or # 3 seed with a loss

 

Stewart Co.- # 4 seed with a win or # 8 seed with loss

 

BTW or Oakhaven- # 4 seed with a Stewart Co. loss and # 5 seed with a Stewart Co. win

 

Fairview- # 5 seed with a Stewart Co. loss and # 6 seed with a Stewart Co. win

 

Lewis Co.- # 6 seed with a Stewart loss and # 7 seed with a Stewart win

 

Westview- # 7 seed with a win and Stewart Co. loss and # 8 seed otherwise.

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According to TSSAA Playoff information and last night here is what I have.....

Automatics...

1) Elizabethton 2) Sullivan North 3) West Greene 4) Cumberland Gap 5) Austin-East

6) G-P 7) CAK 8) Alcoa 9) Polk County 10)McMinn Central 11) Tyner 12) Bledsoe County

13) Sequatchie 14) Smith County 15) Cannon County 16) Goodpasture 17) Pearl Cohn

18) Camden 19) Stewart/Harpeth (winner) 20) Fairview 21) Lewis County 22) Milan

23) Manassas 24) BTW/Oakheaven (winner)

 

That would leave 8 Wildcard spots

1) Loudon (7 wins) 2) York (6 wins).....and then it all begins........

 

Teams at 5 wins

Johnson County 5-5, East Literature 5-5, Happy Valley 5-4, Kingston 5-4 (play Loudon tonight)

Westview 5-4 (play Covington tonight)

 

Teams trying to get to 5 wins....

Grundy 4-5 (play Notre Dame tonight) Harpeth 4-5 (play Stewart Tonight)

Jackson Central-Merry 4-5 (play Lexington tonight) South Greene 4-5 (play Chuckey-Doak tonight)

 

here is my stab in the dark at the final 8 Wildcard slots IMHO

1) Loudon 2) York 3) Grundy 4) Westview 5) Kingston 6) Johnson county

and my two upset specials........Harpeth beats Stewart County which makes Stewart a wildcard and harpeth an automatic.... and Jackson Central-Merry beats Lexington, which puts them in :thumb:

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