davidlimbaugh Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Other than Cannon County who is 3-a or 4-a and maybe Spring Hill (4-a?) I don't see why LaVergne would schedule those other teams, especially Red Boiling Springs. A game vs. nearby Cannon County would be a good draw geographically as would a game vs. Ezell-Harding. In the past handful of years, LaVergne has wins over Hendersonville, Franklin County (twice), Centennial (twice), Columbia (twice) and @ Cookeville (playoffs). Your Red Boiling Springs comment is out of line. No it wasn't. I am exaggerating to make a point. LOL!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidTennFootball Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 What if you can't find anyone else in that caliber that wants to play? Were bout to find out. Bc alot of the power programs are either going to have to play down a class or two, or go to a different section of the state, or out of state altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefortheteam Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Trust me, they've figured it out. The solution is, your record against same class or higher (or equivalent if playing out of state competition) should count. Or a BCS type format A BSC format? Something that already is hated and subjective. No, that would be a huge mistake. It would become a popularity contest, biased against the new, upcoming or rural programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowkee Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 I can clear up this whole thread. Crazy Cowboy or whoever started this did not do his research. I spoke to an assistant principal at Brighton today who helped make the schedules. He said that originally Brighton and Collierville had agreed to play. The contracts were signed and everything was a go. Then the TSSAA realigned the districts, forcing Collierville to play a district game that night. So Brighton only had nine games late in the scheduling period. MAHS called Brighton wanting to play!!! The coach said they were trying to start a new program and they needed the money and the experience, so the teams agreed to play. Brighton was trying to schedule a 6A opponent. As a matter a fact a school quite larger than themselves. So to avoid having nine games, Brighton agreed to play MAHS. SO before everyone on here bashes someone, do your homework first. I have the schools phone number and the name of the administrator if you would like to call verify this story. Also, the TSSAA put Brighton in an all 5A district. They were 6A by one student. TSSAA should have allowed them to play in 5A or moved them into the district with Millington, Arlington, Cordova, etc. Brighton is the only 6A school west of Jackson not in Shelby County. Some one has done their homework, makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trojanswars365 Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 Brighton is the only 6a team in the district. So how can you punish them for not playing 6a teams? On top of that games are hard to find for them due to location. MAHS happened to be open two years ago so they signed a contract. That is how lots of smaller schools make money. Manassas did it for years. I don't see how its a joke. The starters came out at halftime. Big deal. Playoffs were not in consideration for playing this game, it was just used to have 10 games on the schedule. Millington is 25 minutes down the road....Craigmont is 35-45 minutes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEVEN Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 (edited) binns37388.....small colleges have to play those schools for the finical benefits. Tennessee Tech opened up this year with Arkansas and TCU, getting around 1 million for the two combined games. And in that vein.....if everybody is going to start scheduling down, we'll come over to Rutherford Co. for a $25,000 arse whooping from any of you. I'm sure Creasy wouldn't mind at all! One thing is for sure, we'd bring the whole county for something like that! Seriously though, we've been contacted in the past (late '90's) by BA and MBA, and I know that Lassiter at Gallatin expressed interest this year, or at least brought it up in conversation. That being said...if the current playoff system stays in place, these types of games may be on the horizon. davidlimbaugh....that R.B.S. comment was totally out of line! You should be ashamed of yourself! How've you been old buddy? I need to get over to the Reservation some time and take in a game. Never made it when Creasy was there. You know who I am, and if you don't, ask Bowers (I'm sure that just gave it away). Edited September 27, 2010 by SEVEN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidlimbaugh Posted September 27, 2010 Report Share Posted September 27, 2010 davidlimbaugh....that R.B.S. comment was totally out of line! You should be ashamed of yourself! How've you been old buddy? I need to get over to the Reservation some time and take in a game. Never made it when Creasy was there. You know who I am, and if you don't, ask Bowers (I'm sure that just gave it away). I know who you are - LOL!!! Hope you are doing well! I am at Smyrna this year spending some time with my principal, Mr. Raikes. We are at Riverdale Friday if ya want to come by and say hi! Back to the topic at hand. Last year I recognized how inherently unfair the 'Z' system was and developed a non-poll, non-biased, non-subjective 'BCS' system to take scheduling and wins and losses into account. Formula is easy! First, district champion is in and hosts first round. After that... If you win you get (100+opponents wins) + 20 for every higher class or -20 for every lower class - i.e. a 6A team beating a 4A (5-5) team would get 100+5-(2*20) or 65 Win or lose you then get 5 times the number of wins of your opponent and then get 2 times the number of wins of your opponent if they are same class or higher. Last year in 6A I had Smyrna (5-5) and Siegel (5-5) in and Coffee Co (3-7) and Franklin Co (4-6) out Smyrna (6A) (District 7) (5-5) ----------------------------------------------------- Week 0) Beech (5A) (8-2) 21-0 128 Week 1) Brentwood (6A) (8-2) 6-27 56 Week 2) Blackman (6A) (9-1) 2-10 63 Week 3) Centennial (5A) (1-9) 48-0 86 Week 4) Siegel (6A) (5-5) 20-0 140 Week 5) Ensworth (6A) (9-0) 34-36 63 Week 6) Riverdale (6A) (8-2) 27-30 56 Week 8) LaVergne (6A) (3-7) 32-8 124 Week 9) Ravenwood (6A) (5-5) 28-7 140 Week 10) Oakland (6A) (8-2) 0-14 56 Total Points 912 Franklin County (6A) (District 8) (4-6) ----------------------------------------------------- Week 0) White County (5A) (1-9) 34-6 86 Week 2) Shelbyville (5A) (5-5) 14-16 25 Week 3) Warren County (6A) (4-6) 41-28 132 Week 4) Lawrence County (5A) (8-2) 14-40 40 Week 5) LaVergne (6A) (3-7) 0-6 21 Week 6) Tullahoma (5A) (4-6) 48-49 20 Week 7) Clarksville Northwest (5A) (7-3) 0-35 35 Week 8) Lincoln County (6A) (3-7) 34-14 124 Week 9) Coffee County (6A) (3-7) 21-0 124 Week 10) Columbia (5A) (9-1) 16-17 45 Total Points 652 Brighton (6A) (District 13) (8-2) ----------------------------------------------------- Week 0) Raleigh Egypt (5A) (1-9) 48-12 86 Week 1) Bartlett (5A) (4-6) 21-14 104 Week 2) Cordova (6A) (6-4) 32-34 42 Week 3) Covington (4A) (2-8) 14-7 72 Week 4) Jackson Northside (5A) (7-3) 32-21 122 Week 5) MAHS (1A) (1-6) 63-8 6 Week 6) Munford (5A) (3-7) 35-41 15 Week 7) Carver (3A) (0-10) 45-0 40 Week 8) Hardin County (5A) (8-2) 34-14 128 Week 10) Dyer County (5A) (2-8) 41-0 92 Total Points 707 How it turned out in 6A last year with the 'TSSAA BCS' plan (* - District Champion and gets an automatic berth) 1 Maryville (*) 1260 2 Oakland (*) 1247 3 Riverdale 1234 4 Blackman 1194 5 Brentwood (*) 1141 6 Farragut 1141 7 Sevier Co (*) 1120 8 Franklin 1099 9 Germantown (*) 1086 10 McMinn Co (*) 1081 11 White Station (*) 1066 12 Arlington (*) 1058 13 Ooltewah 1054 14 Mt. Juliet 1040 15 Bearden 1023 16 Wooddale 983 17 Whitehaven 960 18 Hunters Lane (*) 945 19 Independence 933 20 Nashville Overton 917 21 Smyrna 912 22 Oak Ridge 910 23 Cordova 898 24 Cookeville (*) 890 25 Millington 862 26 Dickson County 803 27 McGavock 803 28 Siegel 792 29 Dobyns Bennett 791 30 Rossview 783 31 Kirby 781 Bradley Central 770 Soddy-Daisy 760 Ravenwood 732 32 Brighton (*) 707 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefortheteam Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I know who you are - LOL!!! Hope you are doing well! I am at Smyrna this year spending some time with my principal, Mr. Raikes. We are at Riverdale Friday if ya want to come by and say hi! Back to the topic at hand. Last year I recognized how inherently unfair the 'Z' system was and developed a non-poll, non-biased, non-subjective 'BCS' system to take scheduling and wins and losses into account. Formula is easy! First, district champion is in and hosts first round. After that... If you win you get (100+opponents wins) + 20 for every higher class or -20 for every lower class - i.e. a 6A team beating a 4A (5-5) team would get 100+5-(2*20) or 65 Win or lose you then get 5 times the number of wins of your opponent and then get 2 times the number of wins of your opponent if they are same class or higher. Now that is cool. I like objective, but it is too logical to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Now that is cool. I like objective, but it is too logical to use. The AA/3A team here has 3 main rivals, in order they're AA/3A, A/1A and A/2A. Should they have to consider dropping those last two so their playoff chances wouldn't take a possible hit. The gate and fan interest would if it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raider99 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Now that is cool. I like objective, but it is too logical to use. Good idea and Logical to use as only the best teams would get in but as we all know the TSSAA is not going to go for that, that means they would have to work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irecnso Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 Because who wants to play Oakland or Riverdale, or Blackman, or Smyrna, when all it does is penalize them for doing it. Maybe the TSSAA gets lucky this off-season and finally gets it right, but I do not have much hope for that. The T$$AA will probably expand the playoffs and make it worse. Its all about money and greed..Gotta be able to take those trips to conferences in California, etc. in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sled78 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Share Posted September 28, 2010 I know who you are - LOL!!! Hope you are doing well! I am at Smyrna this year spending some time with my principal, Mr. Raikes. We are at Riverdale Friday if ya want to come by and say hi! Back to the topic at hand. Last year I recognized how inherently unfair the 'Z' system was and developed a non-poll, non-biased, non-subjective 'BCS' system to take scheduling and wins and losses into account. Formula is easy! First, district champion is in and hosts first round. After that... If you win you get (100+opponents wins) + 20 for every higher class or -20 for every lower class - i.e. a 6A team beating a 4A (5-5) team would get 100+5-(2*20) or 65 Win or lose you then get 5 times the number of wins of your opponent and then get 2 times the number of wins of your opponent if they are same class or higher. Last year in 6A I had Smyrna (5-5) and Siegel (5-5) in and Coffee Co (3-7) and Franklin Co (4-6) out Smyrna (6A) (District 7) (5-5) ----------------------------------------------------- Week 0) Beech (5A) (8-2) 21-0 128 Week 1) Brentwood (6A) (8-2) 6-27 56 Week 2) Blackman (6A) (9-1) 2-10 63 Week 3) Centennial (5A) (1-9) 48-0 86 Week 4) Siegel (6A) (5-5) 20-0 140 Week 5) Ensworth (6A) (9-0) 34-36 63 Week 6) Riverdale (6A) (8-2) 27-30 56 Week 8) LaVergne (6A) (3-7) 32-8 124 Week 9) Ravenwood (6A) (5-5) 28-7 140 Week 10) Oakland (6A) (8-2) 0-14 56 Total Points 912 Franklin County (6A) (District 8) (4-6) ----------------------------------------------------- Week 0) White County (5A) (1-9) 34-6 86 Week 2) Shelbyville (5A) (5-5) 14-16 25 Week 3) Warren County (6A) (4-6) 41-28 132 Week 4) Lawrence County (5A) (8-2) 14-40 40 Week 5) LaVergne (6A) (3-7) 0-6 21 Week 6) Tullahoma (5A) (4-6) 48-49 20 Week 7) Clarksville Northwest (5A) (7-3) 0-35 35 Week 8) Lincoln County (6A) (3-7) 34-14 124 Week 9) Coffee County (6A) (3-7) 21-0 124 Week 10) Columbia (5A) (9-1) 16-17 45 Total Points 652 Brighton (6A) (District 13) (8-2) ----------------------------------------------------- Week 0) Raleigh Egypt (5A) (1-9) 48-12 86 Week 1) Bartlett (5A) (4-6) 21-14 104 Week 2) Cordova (6A) (6-4) 32-34 42 Week 3) Covington (4A) (2-8) 14-7 72 Week 4) Jackson Northside (5A) (7-3) 32-21 122 Week 5) MAHS (1A) (1-6) 63-8 6 Week 6) Munford (5A) (3-7) 35-41 15 Week 7) Carver (3A) (0-10) 45-0 40 Week 8) Hardin County (5A) (8-2) 34-14 128 Week 10) Dyer County (5A) (2-8) 41-0 92 Total Points 707 How it turned out in 6A last year with the 'TSSAA BCS' plan (* - District Champion and gets an automatic berth) 1 Maryville (*) 1260 2 Oakland (*) 1247 3 Riverdale 1234 4 Blackman 1194 5 Brentwood (*) 1141 6 Farragut 1141 7 Sevier Co (*) 1120 8 Franklin 1099 9 Germantown (*) 1086 10 McMinn Co (*) 1081 11 White Station (*) 1066 12 Arlington (*) 1058 13 Ooltewah 1054 14 Mt. Juliet 1040 15 Bearden 1023 16 Wooddale 983 17 Whitehaven 960 18 Hunters Lane (*) 945 19 Independence 933 20 Nashville Overton 917 21 Smyrna 912 22 Oak Ridge 910 23 Cordova 898 24 Cookeville (*) 890 25 Millington 862 26 Dickson County 803 27 McGavock 803 28 Siegel 792 29 Dobyns Bennett 791 30 Rossview 783 31 Kirby 781 Bradley Central 770 Soddy-Daisy 760 Ravenwood 732 32 Brighton (*) 707 I have a question. What if you are the only 6a team in your district, and you can only play all 5a teams? Then what? Is this why Brighton had the lowest score in your formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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