footballref Posted October 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2012 Thanks I thought it was an automatic 1st down. No problem, a lot of people have the same thought you did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudding Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) Rule 7-17c says: ART. 7 . . . After the ball is marked ready for play and before the snap begins, no false start shall be made by any A player. It is a false start if: a. A shift or feigned charge simulates action at the snap. b. Any act is clearly intended to cause B to encroach. c. Any A player on his line between the snapper and the player on the end of his line, after having placed a hand(s) on or near the ground, moves his hand(s) or makes any quick movement. So, since the TE is not "between the snapper and the player on the end of the line" he can put a hand down and then lift the hand to reset, and it is legal....since he IS the player on the end of the line? Does it make a difference if a WR or slot is up on the line of scrimmage? Is the WR considered the end of the line player at that point? Meaning the TE has to keep his hand down then since he is between the snapper and the player on teh end of the line? Thanks in advance Edited October 24, 2012 by Pudding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballref Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) So, since the TE is not "between the snapper and the player on the end of the line" he can put a hand down and then lift the hand to reset, and it is legal....since he IS the player on the end of the line? Does it make a difference if a WR or slot is up on the line of scrimmage? Is the WR considered the end of the line player at that point? Meaning the TE has to keep his hand down then since he is between the snapper and the player on teh end of the line? Thanks in advance Yes, he can but he cannot false start (simulate a snap). He also can't be moving at the snap in his stance and will need to be set for a second before the snap. He can go in motion and be moving. So, the simple answer is yes but he needs to be careful. If another WR outside the TE is on the line then the TE is a lineman and has to adhere to the same rules as a lineman. I know this sounds a bit confusing and there is a lot to it but rarely is anything cut and dry without any if, ands, or buts Edited October 25, 2012 by footballref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOK Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 slimshady, Hurdling literally hurdling, as in jumping foot or feet first over an opposing player that is on his feet with nothing else touching the ground. Illiegal. Example: if a running back hurdles a pile of players, or a player on his knees, or a player on two feet and one hand on the ground, perfectly legal. The runninig back cannot hurdle a tackler that is touching the ground with only his feet. Few people know the correct definition of this rule. I dont have a rulebook to give you the references, but I do knwo the rule. Is it the same penalty for Defenses who jump over the OL on PAT's or FG's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballref Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Is it the same penalty for Defenses who jump over the OL on PAT's or FG's? Yes, 15 yard personal foul regardless of team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimshady Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 well it happened once in the Mt Juliet/Wilson Central game and wasn't called...and it happened last night in the TC/RBS game and wasn't called...both times the runner hurdled the defender. Both times the commentators joked about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballref Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 well it happened once in the Mt Juliet/Wilson Central game and wasn't called...and it happened last night in the TC/RBS game and wasn't called...both times the runner hurdled the defender. Both times the commentators joked about it. Not something you see called often. There has been more of an emphasis lately. Not something you will even think is a foul until you dig in the book. Even after reading and knowing it you have to be able to apply it when you see it real time. I have been told of it being called on 3 different occasions this season. I saw it once and passed on it. Will not pass next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldYellowJacket Posted November 3, 2012 Report Share Posted November 3, 2012 If one official makes a call that is questionable, can he and other officials meet during a time out, discuss the sutuation, and reverse the call before another play is run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballref Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 If one official makes a call that is questionable, can he and other officials meet during a time out, discuss the sutuation, and reverse the call before another play is run? Calls are discussed all the time during a game. Please tell me what you mean by questionable and we can continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballref Posted January 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Good time to bump this since we are in the off season. Whatcha got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdaffron Posted January 24, 2013 Report Share Posted January 24, 2013 KO goes out of bounds. What is the official call? Illegal procedure, delay of game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballref Posted January 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) KO goes out of bounds. What is the official call? Illegal procedure, delay of game? It is just called a Free Kick Out of Bounds....it uses the False Start/Illegal Formation signal 7. Free kick out of bounds....Rule 6-1-8 Signal 19 Rule 6-1-8 A free kick shall not be kicked out of bounds between the goal lines untouched inbounds by R. If it is, R has the following choices: a. Accept a 5-yard penalty from the previous spot and have K rekick. b. Put the ball in play at the inbounds spot 25 yards beyond the previous spot. c. Decline the penalty and put the ball in play at the inbounds spot. On a side note: A couple of terms people use that are not rule book terms are illegal procedure and lateral. I think the term illegal procedure is a common term due to the signal being used for several different fouls. As far as lateral. The proper terms are forward and backward pass. Edited January 26, 2013 by footballref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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