thepaintrain Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 So winning state titles is not right?Nothing at all wrong with winning state titles. The problem is this: every school has a different set of rules.There is no way to argue that. If there was a single set of rules for everybody then there would be no way to make claims. The T$$AA wil be around to collect your playoff money. That's all they care about. What they should do is make the rules and enforce them for everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLawrence Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 (edited) quit the pissing.......I agree. Bring on the hot CAK moms and their banana pudding. Those we can all agree on. Edited October 26, 2015 by JohnnyLawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonMexico3 Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 If you only knew how many times Alcoa has been accused of that...... Where's there smoke...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govolsknox Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I love it when one cheater calls another cheater a cheater!!!!!! While the T$$AA just sits back and rolls in the dough!!!!! Everybody knows what both does is not right, yet it is allowed. Tell me this, how can a governing body allow somebody else make their rules? In all seriousness, this is just lack of knowledge on your part. No one who really knows these 2 programs thinks they "cheat." The issue I have is with the RULES, but Alcoa is a top notch, classy program. They don't need to cheat, nor does CAK. Cheating indicates "breaking the rules." I may have a problem with the TSSAA ignoring the use of the open zone "loophole" to the advantage of some programs, but that is VERY different than saying someone breaks the rules. Both Alcoa and CAK are well known for running clean programs, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Alcoa program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govolsknox Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I agree. Bring on the hot CAK moms and their banana pudding. Those we can all agree on. I can help you with BOTH, if CAK can muster home field advantage. You'd get what you asked for here in a couple of weeks! If we can't, you are just stuck with band burgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaintrain Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 In all seriousness, this is just lack of knowledge on your part. No one who really knows these 2 programs thinks they "cheat." The issue I have is with the RULES, but Alcoa is a top notch, classy program. They don't need to cheat, nor does CAK. Cheating indicates "breaking the rules." I may have a problem with the TSSAA ignoring the use of the open zone "loophole" to the advantage of some programs, but that is VERY different than saying someone breaks the rules. Both Alcoa and CAK are well known for running clean programs, and I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Alcoa program. Here is the issue. Try doing what either of these schools do in Humbolt, Mckenzie, or many other public schools in the state and it is called cheating and you have to forfeit games. So no it is not a lack of knowledge it is an understanding that the TSSAA allows privates and open zone schools to make their own rules. Any one who does not see that has a lack of understanding! So take off the veil and look at things from a different point of view for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlcoaBasketball Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Nothing at all wrong with winning state titles. The problem is this: every school has a different set of rules.There is no way to argue that. If there was a single set of rules for everybody then there would be no way to make claims. The T$$AA wil be around to collect your playoff money. That's all they care about. What they should do is make the rules and enforce them for everyone. Maybe your school should change its rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlcoaBasketball Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Where's there smoke...... Where there's smoke, there's Allscripts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STARSNBARS Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I agree. Bring on the hot CAK moms and their banana pudding. Those we can all agree on. Volvoe waggun two.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govolsknox Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Here is the issue. Try doing what either of these schools do in Humbolt, Mckenzie, or many other public schools in the state and it is called cheating and you have to forfeit games. So no it is not a lack of knowledge it is an understanding that the TSSAA allows privates and open zone schools to make their own rules. Any one who does not see that has a lack of understanding! So take off the veil and look at things from a different point of view for once. Frankly, I'm not going to waste my time giving a voluminous response. Those who've been on the T for an extended period of time know that 1. I've written a tremendous amount of material about this subject. and 2. It is very complicated. The privates have a number of inherit DISadvantages along with a few advantages. Regardless, the TSSAA imposed a 1.8 multiplier. At least that was doing something. Open zone is far more complicated because while it is used to the fullest advantage in Blount County (and at Riverdale, back in the day before they changed their policy), there are many "open zone" schools that basically have few if any out of zone impact players. So the TSSAA chooses to ignore this complicated issue and address the "easy" one, private schools. So after this year, your beef with the privates will be addressed. And you'll be left with the same disparity with open zoning that you had before this latest change by the TSSAA. You are so far behind in understanding the details of this subject, that rather than post, you need to read what has been discussed over the last 5-7 years. Not that I'm saying you don't have a right to post. Post away. But it is clear that you are at 101 level, and this subject is at Grad school level. Best of luck to your program, both this year while you have both to deal with, and next year, after the TSSAA has solved "all the problems" by removing the private schools. It will be interesting to see over the next 5 years what effect the privates being separated has on the TSSAA if they do what I would anticipate and simply form their own league, over time, tremendously reducing the budget the TSSAA has to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepaintrain Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 That is the main problem. Your school has the ability to do so. Our school does not. One of our leaders brought a lawsuit that got the government involved about racial equalities inside of schools. The NAACP got aggitated and now we have a national mandated school zone. Now kids from the country get bussed to the county seat and kids from the city get bussed to the country. Nobody is happy!!!! Except the kids with money. They drive to a larger city down the road and have their pick of lots of nice private schools. Many of our great middle school athletes end up with a Academy or University in their high school name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govolsknox Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 Where there is smoke.....there are band burgers. With fries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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