Antioch HC

[runtheball]

Most of metro's high schools are not even in neighborhoods anymore where kids come from. These older neighborhoods do not even have kids in them like when they were built. There a few, new Antioch is is a new neighborhood as is Cane Ridge. Most kids at most schools are not that close anymore.

[cbg]

Most of metro's high schools are not even in neighborhoods anymore where kids come from. These older neighborhoods do not even have kids in them like when they were built. There a few, new Antioch is is a new neighborhood as is Cane Ridge. Most kids at most schools are not that close anymore.

 

You are correct that many of the high schools are not in neighborhoods where the kids live today.  I was told by someone that works for MNPS that data will show that the current enrollment for MNPS is much the same as it was 30 years ago.  The reason for this is young people have moved outside of Davidson County in search of better school systems or have decided to send their children to private schools.  However, with the revitalization of many older neighborhoods in Davidson County by young single and just married millennials they will soon be having children. Lets remember that 90+ people are moving to the Nashville area each day.  We can only hope that as young parents they take a stand and DEMAND that the MNPS step up their game and become the excellent academic institutions they once were.  It is a travesty that many communities all across the USA, both rich and poor have a great public schools system and the children of Davidson County must endure the social experiment that continues today.

[JustTheOpposite]

Yes. You guys are absolutely right when it comes to Antioch. It has nothing to do with the new admin firing a sub par coach who could not get any good players interested in playing. She has a great plan but busing is taking it apart.

[Hoganknows]

Do you know why MNPS has so much bussing? 

 

History Lesson:  The federal government told MNPS to develop their own desegregation plan or they would do it for them.  It was an election year for the council and school board and they didn't want blood stains on their hands during an election year and made the decision to allow federal judge Wiseman to come up with the plan.  Over the years I have spoken with both older African American political leaders in Nashville at that time and older Caucasian political leaders and have yet to find one that agreed with the plan that the federal government put in place.  It just goes t show that you need to keep the federal government out of local politics/business when at all possible.  Yes, the plan that Judge Wiseman came up with was bad but the MNPS board and the Metro Council/Mayor had the opportunity to establish and implement their own plan and would not do so due to politics.  Politics are what truly ruined the public school system in Nashville because it forced both bussing and the elimination of local community schools. 

Amen ...great post!

[fb247]

You are correct that many of the high schools are not in neighborhoods where the kids live today.  I was told by someone that works for MNPS that data will show that the current enrollment for MNPS is much the same as it was 30 years ago.  The reason for this is young people have moved outside of Davidson County in search of better school systems or have decided to send their children to private schools.  However, with the revitalization of many older neighborhoods in Davidson County by young single and just married millennials they will soon be having children. Lets remember that 90+ people are moving to the Nashville area each day.  We can only hope that as young parents they take a stand and DEMAND that the MNPS step up their game and become the excellent academic institutions they once were.  It is a travesty that many communities all across the USA, both rich and poor have a great public schools system and the children of Davidson County must endure the social experiment that continues today.

So doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results is called ??????

[cbg]

So doing the same thing over and over hoping for different results is called ??????

 

Don't understand what you are asking?

[fb247]

Don't understand what you are asking?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins133991.html             I was just making a comment,no question.

Edited May 17, 2017 by fb247

[runtheball]

You are correct that many of the high schools are not in neighborhoods where the kids live today.  I was told by someone that works for MNPS that data will show that the current enrollment for MNPS is much the same as it was 30 years ago.  The reason for this is young people have moved outside of Davidson County in search of better school systems or have decided to send their children to private schools.  However, with the revitalization of many older neighborhoods in Davidson County by young single and just married millennials they will soon be having children. Lets remember that 90+ people are moving to the Nashville area each day.  We can only hope that as young parents they take a stand and DEMAND that the MNPS step up their game and become the excellent academic institutions they once were.  It is a travesty that many communities all across the USA, both rich and poor have a great public schools system and the children of Davidson County must endure the social experiment that continues today.

All this is true,but every school in Metro still has players that can play. The biggest obstacle is getting these kids excited about playing and that starts with a coach who kids will respond to. It is not about schemes and knowledge of the game. Antioch had that coach and just let him go. The only way this new coach will have any success is an ability to relate,encourage,and care for them. Kids what to know how much you care ,before they care how much you know.The days of being this hard core yelling coach is over ,especially with these kids. But if they know you care they will do anything asked and will want to be part of something special.  Best wishes to Antioch.

[cbg]

All this is true,but every school in Metro still has players that can play. The biggest obstacle is getting these kids excited about playing and that starts with a coach who kids will respond to. It is not about schemes and knowledge of the game. Antioch had that coach and just let him go. The only way this new coach will have any success is an ability to relate,encourage,and care for them. Kids what to know how much you care ,before they care how much you know.The days of being this hard core yelling coach is over ,especially with these kids. But if they know you care they will do anything asked and will want to be part of something special.  Best wishes to Antioch.

 

Very well said coach and I agree with you.  We both know that with kids today there is a fine line between pushing them over the edge and not pushing them hard enough. 

 

JMO, but if Nashville continues to grow you will see the pendulum swing back more towards the center and things will become more like they were in the 60's & 70's in MNPS.  With the influx of new & young families moving to Nashville and revitalizing many of the older and dilapidated neighborhoods MNPS are about to discover both the good and bad of the growth.

1.  More kids will become enrolled in MNPS

2.  These families are more educated than past generations with most having a BS and many having obtained their masters degree.

3.  These families VOTE and will demand more of the school system than MNPS are accustomed to providing. 

4.  Property taxes will increase significantly to pay for the services these new families will demand from the school system.

5.  Many of these young adults moving to Nashville received excellent public school educations from all over the USA so they know what can and should be done to improve the MNPS.

 

The real shock will be what the mayors office and the MNPS board of directors do when these demands begin to take place.  I have said for 25+ years that if all the private school students that live in Davidson County decided to attend MNPS you would see a total collapse of the public school system.  MNPS have been using the $$$ paid by families that have children attending a private school so the extra funds would disappear and those same families would immediately become very involved in MNPS in a way that the school board and administration could not handle.  Many of these private school parents would micro manage every aspect of the MNPS.  For what it's worth it would not be a pretty scene for MNPS unless they changed the way they currently do business.   What you would discover is that the students attending MNPS would receive a great education much like Hume Fogg or Martin Luther King and the athletic teams would begin to compete for championships much like they did many years ago.

Edited May 18, 2017 by cbg

[runtheball]

Very well said coach and I agree with you.  We both know that with kids today there is a fine line between pushing them over the edge and not pushing them hard enough. 

 

JMO, but if Nashville continues to grow you will see the pendulum swing back more towards the center and things will become more like they were in the 60's & 70's in MNPS.  With the influx of new & young families moving to Nashville and revitalizing many of the older and dilapidated neighborhoods MNPS are about to discover both the good and bad of the growth.

1.  More kids will become enrolled in MNPS

2.  These families are more educated than past generations with most having a BS and many having obtained their masters degree.

3.  These families VOTE and will demand more of the school system than MNPS are accustomed to providing. 

4.  Property taxes will increase significantly to pay for the services these new families will demand from the school system.

5.  Many of these young adults moving to Nashville received excellent public school educations from all over the USA so they know what can and should be done to improve the MNPS.

 

The real shock will be what the mayors office and the MNPS board of directors do when these demands begin to take place.  I have said for 25+ years that if all the private school students that live in Davidson County decided to attend MNPS you would see a total collapse of the public school system.  MNPS have been using the $$$ paid by families that have children attending a private school so the extra funds would disappear and those same families would immediately become very involved in MNPS in a way that the school board and administration could not handle.  Many of these private school parents would micro manage every aspect of the MNPS.  For what it's worth it would not be a pretty scene for MNPS unless they changed the way they currently do business.   What you would discover is that the students attending MNPS would receive a great education much like Hume Fogg or Martin Luther King and the athletic teams would begin to compete for championships much like they did many years ago.

I agree. I was in old Hillsboro neighborhood on 12th Ave. where original Beckers Bakery was and  where many kids came from that attended Hillsboro. I passed Sevier Park and saw a very different population. I t was also crowded and much activity. 12th avenue was packed and crowded also with many new businesses . Many homes were being renovated  and a change is happening. it will be interesting  how all this plays out. 

Edited May 18, 2017 by runtheball

[bleacher]

An essential contributor to the rising cost of public education in Nashville has been the influx of immigrants that privates and surrounding counties deal with in a much lesser degree.

MNPS educates all types of children. ELL, special needs, handicapped,and many from dysfunctional families that some sections of society turn their back on. This is costly.

Private schools and magnet schools do not fight the same battles. They have select clientele.

[FBfan26]

All this is true,but every school in Metro still has players that can play. The biggest obstacle is getting these kids excited about playing and that starts with a coach who kids will respond to. It is not about schemes and knowledge of the game. Antioch had that coach and just let him go. The only way this new coach will have any success is an ability to relate,encourage,and care for them. Kids what to know how much you care ,before they care how much you know.The days of being this hard core yelling coach is over ,especially with these kids. But if they know you care they will do anything asked and will want to be part of something special. Best wishes to Antioch.

Agree with you 100%